[D.Schäferhund]

Hi
I take them out with me, sometimes all of them and sometimes an extrasession with one.
Inspite of some belives they are very attached to me, and not that much to eachother, they don't wander as much as they did, well one is sold and he was a fresh little one and so full of himself....- wandered of a lot

They mostly pay attention where I go even if mom goes a different way, although she doesn't do that very much, she feels obligated to help me do my work. the little ones take that time, when I am close to the horses for exploring.

I think she tells them not to wander too far. But that is a little against what i belive in training in. They take freedom, wich mom thinks they shouldn't have, she punishes it. i hide and "get "them scared, when I disappear .
i know mom would keep a close eye on them, i see that she is confused when i just go hide or walk away, I can see that she is thinking: do I look for my pups or do I go with my "Mom"?
She usually follows me. i believe she thinks that I know what I am doing is good, but she is still confused.
That would implement that dogs understand punishment for something that they are not doing this instant, that they know that this is for wandering off too far and not for coming back.
I try to figure that out, because that behaviour isn't writen down as far as i know, I have seen it before but never that intense.
Now does that have an impact on my training with them, and other dogs, does that widen my knowledge for handling situations like that.
Can I punish when they come back, when they weren't listening-do they make the connection?
They seem to get the message from mom, today they took a little loop of the property into the cowpasture on the way to the barn, my first stop, mom pinned Anka the most venturuos pupp after that loop, and they stayed put all the time, well on the property. does she do bordertraining with them?
She knows the fenceline, I never tought her, but she chases strays till the fence, eventhough she could go through, too.

First i was very puzzeled because I had so much trouble with advertizing and that hole well planed littler, came faster and more unorganized then thought, right in our move, but for maturing reasons I didn't want o put it of one more heat again!
Well, the result is good and bad.
They should be off in good homes by now, like one of them allready is, but on the other hand. i learn so much, by just watching them grow.
Revized my belive it is bad to get two pups out of a litter, they will be very independent, that subject is not that easy. They just require more attention, well and that is hard for a lot of people. but it is not that they be more fixated to dogs then humans.

I see my dog that is so hard and dogagressive, beeing so gentle and displays all the social behaviour i thought she missed learning in the propper way.
She is more then paitent and abslotly fair, doesn't play her dominance against them.
she isn't jealous of them, because they want so much attention fom me.
She shows me sides I would have never seen without that litter.and the time i get to spend with them , that is more then it was planed.
I have a strong belive that she does pin them down for a reason, the reson of going of that far, but do i have to change my ay of training. does it have an impact on my behaviour with the pups/dogs??

@ RBW: it is a hard time, well they get well behaving everyday a little more and it is work to get four, well now three pottytrained, and fed and basic obedience done, but it pays of and all that little stuff they do is so rewarding, ahveing the chance to watch them under all kind of aspects, is wonderfull. Not just to see them grow. it answers so many left open questions, you don't find in a book.
I think a lot of you who breed and be close to the pups know what I am talking about, you learn a lot about bahaviour and the dogs you though you had figured ot pretty much.
It is not just about how cute they are I love watching and observing.
You always find something new...