Volhard Canine Personality Profile

doberkim · 02-08-2005, 04:30 PM

You can take it here:
http://www.volhard.com/training/cpp.htm

Bowie scored as follows:

Your dog's drives
Prey = 45
Pack = 55
Defense - Fight = 45
Defense - Flight = 15

Ritz459 · 02-08-2005, 05:07 PM

I just did Rose. She scored as follows:

Prey=60
Pack=45
Defence-fight= 25
Defence-flight= 25

And Blackie scores as follows:

Prey= 35
Pack= 45
Defence-fight= 40
Defence-flight= 10

Now......what does all of that mean? lol I think I kinda get it though....but how can I use that info to help me train my dogs?

Crossfire Bulldogs · 02-08-2005, 05:12 PM

Did this one for my alpha wanna be Immy

Prey=50
Pack=20
Defence-fight= 20
Defence-flight= 15

ChiChi · 02-08-2005, 05:26 PM

Brody Scores teh Following:

Your dog's drives
Prey = 70
Pack = 65
Defence-fight= 50
Defence-flight= 35

***Cassiepeia*** · 02-08-2005, 05:57 PM

Jesse's drives

Prey = 10
Pack = 40
Defense - Fight = 30
Defense - Flight = 30

Not much of a prey drive in the little old man. LOL

Cass.

oc_spirit · 02-08-2005, 05:59 PM

OC's is

Your dog's drives
Prey = 65
Pack = 65
Defense - Fight = 25
Defense - Flight = 0

GSD · 02-08-2005, 06:37 PM

Prey-70
pack- 55
defense-35
flight- 0

doberkim · 02-08-2005, 07:01 PM

ok i had to retake it - apparently, you should do it as your dog would NATURALLy do it, not as you have trained them to do.

Prey = 55
Pack = 65
Defense - Fight = 60
Defense - Flight = 15

RedHotDobe · 02-08-2005, 07:29 PM

Duke's Drives

Prey = 55
Pack = 50
Defense - Fight = 50
Defense - Flight = 30

Alexis · 02-08-2005, 07:42 PM

Godiva:
Your dog's drives
Prey = 10
Pack = 65
Defense - Fight = 20
Defense - Flight = 30

Zermatt:
Your dog's drives
Prey = 20
Pack = 60
Defense - Fight = 20
Defense - Flight = 10

Now what excatly is this supposed to mean?

sunny98 · 02-08-2005, 07:42 PM

Sunny's Drives

Prey-35
Pack-35

Defense-3
Flight-3

Ok, so what does all this mean? I am kinda at a loss

oc_spirit · 02-08-2005, 08:32 PM

Daberkim, that doesn't make much sense because if the dog has been properly trained to do something then it is him doing it naturally...To take the test relying on what he hasn't been trained to do would not be your dog then, it would be a "bare skeleten" of your dog...am I making any sense?

Cheers!

***Carrie*** · 02-08-2005, 10:07 PM

Lyric

Your dog's drives Prey = 65

Pack = 70

Defense - Fight = 40

Defense - Flight = 10

GreenleafGreyhound · 02-08-2005, 10:20 PM

Giselle:
Prey: 70 (Guess it has something to do with her being a sighthound?)
Pack: 60
Fight: 10
Flight: 35

Now...to figure out what it means

***Carrie*** · 02-08-2005, 10:23 PM

O.C. the test is to see what your dog's natural tendencies are or what drives are stronger in your dog. After training, some of that information is skewed or won't show up as well. For instance, Lyric, before he was trained would gladly, any chance he got jump up on the counter and grab anything he could get his hands on. So that is showing some kind of drive....prey I guess, the hunt. Well, when he doesn't attempt to do that now, you can't see that drive in that situation so you don't know if he has that drive or not. (well...of course we know he has that drive, but how much or what is demonstrating that drive?)

The test isn't to find out what your dog is capable of after training. This it to discover a dog's natural drives that are inherent in him and learn how to work with and direct him when you are training.

The problem I see with the test is that even putting the training aside, every dog has had experiences in his life. These influence his behaviors. Someone might not actively be training their dog, but because of circustances, his drives still may not be recognized very acurately. For example: If a dog is not socialized enough or has some frightening thing happen to them as a puppy, that could make the flight drive much stronger than it might have otherwise been. So, while this test is a good, ball park type thing to get an idea of what drives our dogs tend to have the strongest, it probably isn't the end all.

I noticed while taking the test that I had to search my memory to think back when Lyric was a very young pup how much he jumped up on people. I really don't recall him jumping up much at all and that he learned to not jump in a matter of a few times. There could be other questions in there that I am not sure whether his behavior is due to training or is it innate.

Right now he's trying to rest his chin on my keyboard. Is that pack drive? Or is that just obnoxious? LOL.

02-08-2005, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
doberkim doberslave Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 830 Rep Power: 106	Volhard Canine Personality Profile You can take it here: http://www.volhard.com/training/cpp.htm Bowie scored as follows: Your dog's drives Prey = 45 Pack = 55 Defense - Fight = 45 Defense - Flight = 15
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02-08-2005, 05:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ritz459 "Nothing is ever easy" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,899 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 240	I just did Rose. She scored as follows: Prey=60 Pack=45 Defence-fight= 25 Defence-flight= 25 And Blackie scores as follows: Prey= 35 Pack= 45 Defence-fight= 40 Defence-flight= 10 Now......what does all of that mean? lol I think I kinda get it though....but how can I use that info to help me train my dogs?
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Crossfire Bulldogs Sourmug Mom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Snuggled Between The Snorts & Snores. Posts: 7,844 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 287	Did this one for my alpha wanna be Immy Prey=50 Pack=20 Defence-fight= 20 Defence-flight= 15
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02-08-2005, 05:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
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02-08-2005, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
oc_spirit Snow Girl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,621 Rep Power: 146	OC's is Your dog's drives Prey = 65 Pack = 65 Defense - Fight = 25 Defense - Flight = 0
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02-08-2005, 05:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Cassiepeia* Chihuahua Mum Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 8,281 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 286	Jesse's drives Prey = 10 Pack = 40 Defense - Fight = 30 Defense - Flight = 30 Not much of a prey drive in the little old man. LOL Cass.

02-08-2005, 06:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
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02-08-2005, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
doberkim doberslave Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 830 Rep Power: 106	ok i had to retake it - apparently, you should do it as your dog would NATURALLy do it, not as you have trained them to do. Prey = 55 Pack = 65 Defense - Fight = 60 Defense - Flight = 15
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02-08-2005, 07:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
RedHotDobe <-official IM supervisor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 743 Rep Power: 97	Duke's Drives Prey = 55 Pack = 50 Defense - Fight = 50 Defense - Flight = 30
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02-08-2005, 07:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
Alexis Greater Swiss Mtn Dogs Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont Posts: 282 Rep Power: 85	Godiva: Your dog's drives Prey = 10 Pack = 65 Defense - Fight = 20 Defense - Flight = 30 Zermatt: Your dog's drives Prey = 20 Pack = 60 Defense - Fight = 20 Defense - Flight = 10 Now what excatly is this supposed to mean?

02-08-2005, 07:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
sunny98 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt Vernon Wa Posts: 822 Rep Power: 101	Sunny's Drives Prey-35 Pack-35 Defense-3 Flight-3 Ok, so what does all this mean? I am kinda at a loss
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02-08-2005, 08:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
oc_spirit Snow Girl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,621 Rep Power: 146	Daberkim, that doesn't make much sense because if the dog has been properly trained to do something then it is him doing it naturally...To take the test relying on what he hasn't been trained to do would not be your dog then, it would be a "bare skeleten" of your dog...am I making any sense? Cheers!
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02-08-2005, 10:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,551 Rep Power: 292	Lyric Your dog's drives Prey = 65 Pack = 70 Defense - Fight = 40 Defense - Flight = 10

02-08-2005, 10:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
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02-08-2005, 10:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,551 Rep Power: 292	O.C. the test is to see what your dog's natural tendencies are or what drives are stronger in your dog. After training, some of that information is skewed or won't show up as well. For instance, Lyric, before he was trained would gladly, any chance he got jump up on the counter and grab anything he could get his hands on. So that is showing some kind of drive....prey I guess, the hunt. Well, when he doesn't attempt to do that now, you can't see that drive in that situation so you don't know if he has that drive or not. (well...of course we know he has that drive, but how much or what is demonstrating that drive?) The test isn't to find out what your dog is capable of after training. This it to discover a dog's natural drives that are inherent in him and learn how to work with and direct him when you are training. The problem I see with the test is that even putting the training aside, every dog has had experiences in his life. These influence his behaviors. Someone might not actively be training their dog, but because of circustances, his drives still may not be recognized very acurately. For example: If a dog is not socialized enough or has some frightening thing happen to them as a puppy, that could make the flight drive much stronger than it might have otherwise been. So, while this test is a good, ball park type thing to get an idea of what drives our dogs tend to have the strongest, it probably isn't the end all. I noticed while taking the test that I had to search my memory to think back when Lyric was a very young pup how much he jumped up on people. I really don't recall him jumping up much at all and that he learned to not jump in a matter of a few times. There could be other questions in there that I am not sure whether his behavior is due to training or is it innate. Right now he's trying to rest his chin on my keyboard. Is that pack drive? Or is that just obnoxious? LOL.

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