Whining!

Rip's Girl · 07-18-2004, 01:13 AM

My little papillon, Ripley, has begun whining incessantly every time another dog is around. Males, females, altered or intact, he whines at them all. He's usually easy to control when I don't acknowledge the other dog, but if I talk to it or pet it, he starts yipping and whining. He hasn't done this with big dogs, only ones his size.

I'm pretty sure that it's just his hormones raging and his dominant personality kicking in, but I absolutely can NOT stop the whining!

I give him a leash correction, and he whines immediately after the correction stops. I tell him "NO", and he stops long enough to listen to me and then keeps on whining. I praise him when he's quiet, but the instant I get near another dog and start talking to it or its owner, he gets noisy.

Now, this isn't a huge problem. He stays in one spot, usually a down-stay, but it's just OBNOXIOUS, particularly at agility class, where he works side-by-side with two Yorkies. Every time we take a rest, he lays down and whines.

Any suggestions on how to correct the whining?

Thanks!

Renee750il · 07-18-2004, 06:14 AM

Maybe if you made an opportunity for him to actually meet and touch with the other dogs that routinely set the whining off it would stop. I know when Bimmer's done that on occasion it's been because he wanted to see the dog or person up close and paws on.

***Carrie*** · 07-24-2004, 10:56 AM

Do you tell him something when he whines? Do you look at him and give him any attention at all for it? Try absolutely ignoring him, no negative or positive attention of any kind. Then if he stops for a breath of air and is quiet for a few seconds, THEN, and only then reward him with a treat which you carry in your pocket and lavish praise. Be consistant, sticking with this policy. It may take a while, but it should sink in. Let us know.

Carrie

DaxAriel's toy · 07-24-2004, 12:03 PM

I've heard of this. It's called Stress Whining. Your corrections won't work because he doesn't realize he's doing it. When you correct him - he gives you a WHAT? look.

You need to teach him to whine. When he does it - praise him for it just like you are teaching any other command. Then after a short period - he should start whining on command. When he does this he is then looking to you for a treat.

Once all that is done - you can teach him "enough" or "quiet"

Renee750il · 07-30-2004, 12:08 AM

Hmmmm. . . teaching a dog to do something you don't want him to do so you can teach him to stop. That's a novel approach.

But I'm a little nuts anyway. I tend to ask them what the problem is - fully expecting that they'll let me know. Then we take care of whatever is bothering them, or I can tell them, honestly, that it's nothing they need to fret over. They listen well since they can trust my judgment. But, to quote Bret Favre, "that's just me." ;} (Those were some funny commercials! Can you tell I'm ready for football season?)

dogma · 05-25-2006, 08:22 PM

My female Chi does this, too. I squirt her with a squirt bottle. It works better than anything. In the car she is so annoying that I give her Rescue Remedy to calm her down. It is a bottle of flower essences that really calm a dog, or people down. Is sold in pet stores, and health food stores. Sometimes it is stress induced, sometimes manipulative. Don't let his behavior change yours. Best wishes.

***Carrie*** · 05-25-2006, 09:01 PM

7-18-2004? LOL. Another very old post. I wonder if the dog has stopped that behavior. LOL.

Dogsareme · 05-25-2006, 10:17 PM

Dogs will usually whine around other dogs to let them know that they are no threat and just want to be friendly.
Is he possibly feeling threatened lately in some way?? Has he been attacked before??

flyndog · 06-04-2006, 04:23 PM

Some of you might recall that Ripley was de-barked.

Raised By Wolves · 06-04-2006, 04:39 PM

Hi Kit!

Are you saying this dog has now switched to whining to relieve frustration?

I have seen some de-barked dogs, who act just as neurotic, hyper, and bark just as much as they ever did...only now they are just annoying, not loud and annoying.

Maybe it's just me, but I view excessive barking as a potential frustration problem on the part of the dog, first. Getting rid of the noise only lessons our, (and our neighbor's), problem with the "noisy" part of "it".

flyndog · 06-04-2006, 04:52 PM

No, I'm not saying anything except that the dog was de-barked. I don't know if he was debarked before or after that post. The post is a year old. Ripley had luxating patella (or some structural problem) and I thought he was was retired from agility.

07-18-2004, 01:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rip's Girl Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,580 Rep Power: 144	Whining! My little papillon, Ripley, has begun whining incessantly every time another dog is around. Males, females, altered or intact, he whines at them all. He's usually easy to control when I don't acknowledge the other dog, but if I talk to it or pet it, he starts yipping and whining. He hasn't done this with big dogs, only ones his size. I'm pretty sure that it's just his hormones raging and his dominant personality kicking in, but I absolutely can NOT stop the whining! I give him a leash correction, and he whines immediately after the correction stops. I tell him "NO", and he stops long enough to listen to me and then keeps on whining. I praise him when he's quiet, but the instant I get near another dog and start talking to it or its owner, he gets noisy. Now, this isn't a huge problem. He stays in one spot, usually a down-stay, but it's just OBNOXIOUS, particularly at agility class, where he works side-by-side with two Yorkies. Every time we take a rest, he lays down and whines. Any suggestions on how to correct the whining? Thanks!

05-25-2006, 09:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,551 Rep Power: 292	7-18-2004? LOL. Another very old post. I wonder if the dog has stopped that behavior. LOL.
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05-25-2006, 10:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dogsareme Voice for those Without Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 633 Rep Power: 75	Dogs will usually whine around other dogs to let them know that they are no threat and just want to be friendly. Is he possibly feeling threatened lately in some way?? Has he been attacked before??
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06-04-2006, 04:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
flyndog Unleash The Possibilities Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Marfa, TX Posts: 3,969 Rep Power: 185	Some of you might recall that Ripley was de-barked.
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06-04-2006, 04:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Raised By Wolves Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,523 Rep Power: 129	Hi Kit! Are you saying this dog has now switched to whining to relieve frustration? I have seen some de-barked dogs, who act just as neurotic, hyper, and bark just as much as they ever did...only now they are just annoying, not loud and annoying. Maybe it's just me, but I view excessive barking as a potential frustration problem on the part of the dog, first. Getting rid of the noise only lessons our, (and our neighbor's), problem with the "noisy" part of "it".
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07-18-2004, 06:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Renee750il FilaSlave Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: White Pine, TN Posts: 181 Rep Power: 86	Maybe if you made an opportunity for him to actually meet and touch with the other dogs that routinely set the whining off it would stop. I know when Bimmer's done that on occasion it's been because he wanted to see the dog or person up close and paws on.

07-24-2004, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,551 Rep Power: 292	Do you tell him something when he whines? Do you look at him and give him any attention at all for it? Try absolutely ignoring him, no negative or positive attention of any kind. Then if he stops for a breath of air and is quiet for a few seconds, THEN, and only then reward him with a treat which you carry in your pocket and lavish praise. Be consistant, sticking with this policy. It may take a while, but it should sink in. Let us know. Carrie

07-24-2004, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
DaxAriel's toy Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 135 Rep Power: 0	I've heard of this. It's called Stress Whining. Your corrections won't work because he doesn't realize he's doing it. When you correct him - he gives you a WHAT? look. You need to teach him to whine. When he does it - praise him for it just like you are teaching any other command. Then after a short period - he should start whining on command. When he does this he is then looking to you for a treat. Once all that is done - you can teach him "enough" or "quiet"

07-30-2004, 12:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Renee750il FilaSlave Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: White Pine, TN Posts: 181 Rep Power: 86	Hmmmm. . . teaching a dog to do something you don't want him to do so you can teach him to stop. That's a novel approach. But I'm a little nuts anyway. I tend to ask them what the problem is - fully expecting that they'll let me know. Then we take care of whatever is bothering them, or I can tell them, honestly, that it's nothing they need to fret over. They listen well since they can trust my judgment. But, to quote Bret Favre, "that's just me." ;} (Those were some funny commercials! Can you tell I'm ready for football season?)

05-25-2006, 08:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
dogma Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 122 Rep Power: 51	My female Chi does this, too. I squirt her with a squirt bottle. It works better than anything. In the car she is so annoying that I give her Rescue Remedy to calm her down. It is a bottle of flower essences that really calm a dog, or people down. Is sold in pet stores, and health food stores. Sometimes it is stress induced, sometimes manipulative. Don't let his behavior change yours. Best wishes.

06-04-2006, 04:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
flyndog Unleash The Possibilities Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Marfa, TX Posts: 3,969 Rep Power: 185	No, I'm not saying anything except that the dog was de-barked. I don't know if he was debarked before or after that post. The post is a year old. Ripley had luxating patella (or some structural problem) and I thought he was was retired from agility.
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