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Old 11-27-2007, 09:10 AM   #346 (permalink)
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I don't beleive in spanking my dogs. However when they are puppies and they get to rough with myself or each other a hard tap on the nose with my finger is used. Its just a method used to get their attention and its not abuse.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:37 AM   #347 (permalink)
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I laughed, my dad was an older guy. A real hard ***, lol and he thought that hitting dogs worked.Now he never REALLY hurt them, just hit them. lol I'll have to say the dog did listen and know who was boss. (it was a bigger dog though)

I do not hit my dog how ever, but I used to flick him in the nose fairly hard when he was a puppy as a form of discipline, but never hit him. Now he doesn't even need a flick in the nose.
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Old 01-17-2008, 12:27 PM   #348 (permalink)
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There is never any good reasons for hitting a dog - All hitting does is teach the dog to fear humans. As for this clown that "spanked" the dog because he found trash on the floor: unless the dog is corrected within a few seconds, the dog willl not understand why it is being corrected. A better correction is a sharp sound.

I sometimes "bump" or "give a touch" to my dog if she's playing to rough, or if she's doing something she should not do, but it can NO WAY be confused with Hitting or spanking ...

I do it only when I'm calm and completly under control...... it is never done with anger or malous.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:09 AM   #349 (permalink)
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I think that spanking your dog is wrong and has no affect on the dog whatsoever! I have a female Jack Russell. She was posted in the newspaper by a family that didn't have enough time for her. When we arrived to see her she immediately came running to me and it was love at first sight. The owner then proceeded to inform me that the people she had purchased her from had thrown her down a flight of stairs when she was just a pup and her leg was broke. They didn't take her to the vet to have it checked so she now has a permanent limp and if she runs too much it caused her pain. When she told me this I was mortified! How could someone think that throwing a puppy down the stairs would possiblly teach her anything besides to fear humans?! She is very timid and if she does something she knows she is not supposed to and is spoke to in even the slightest harsh manner she falls onto her back and pees all over herself. Had she not been treated this way she would not have these concerns! We never spank her. MAinly because it is just wrong but we wouldn't even have to she is very smart and knows what she can and can't do. When she knows we are mad at her she apologizes in such a sweet way you can't be mad at her.
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:52 PM   #350 (permalink)
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Violence creates more violence. You don't have to spank a pet for being naughty. They are not children they are animals and they don't know that what they are doing is not appropriate.

Case in point... A friend of mine had problems with her dog remaining in a down/stay. She did every correction imaginable including punishing the dog. NOT GOOD! Then a wise trainer stepped in and had her put two small toys on each of her dog's front feed after she was in her down position and told to stay. When the dog moved the toy fell off her foot. The owner then punished the toy in front of the dog. BAD TOY (SMACK SMACK) BAD BAD TOY! and to this day that dog has the best down stay of them all!

What did it teach the dog??? We don't know but the violence of the toy being punished some how got through to the dog and she complied with every command given to her......The dog was never touched again in a violent manner.....
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:20 PM   #351 (permalink)
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I never "spank" my pets. There is never a good reason to hit a pet, at least in my eyes....
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:26 PM   #352 (permalink)
 
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I have to be honest here...... Yes! I did hit Kaytee once and only once. 2weeks ago when she was about to swallow a baby sparrow I smacked her on her hind quarters to make her drop the poor little critter. Damage was already done to the bird so looking back I suppose it wasnt necessary. In the moment, I was trying to do the right thing however.
If I were to ever come upon a situation where a person or a child was being a attacked by a stranger's dog (or mine for that matter) I would do whatever I had to to make the dog stop biting it's victim.
These would be the only circumstances I would warrant something like that. Life or death situations are exactly that, and if hitting an animal is going to change it's mind about what it's doing than, yepp, i'm all for it.

Now for the disclaimer:
At no time and for no reason besides the afformentioned would there ever be a reason to be hitting your dog. I have comeup with some great ways to discipline and instantly change some unruly behaivor in my animals that involve no contact whatsoever.

My 2 most favorite instruments of discipline:
(1) The dreaded CAN!
- The can, as mentioned, is 1 small metal can such as a coffee can or I actually use an empty metal ornamental spaghetti can. Then fill your can with about $1.00 in pennies. Show the dogs the can and tell them at that point, "Do you want the can???" I usually will pull this out when Peety simply will not stop barking. The noise that the coins make inside of it seems to be excrutiating to my dogs. All Kaytee has to do is see the can and she will IMMEDIATELY go and laydown in her bed knowing what is to come. Peety, the more rebellious male, will test the boundaries moreso. Once the can is shook from side to side, it's all over. Peety will back off with the barking and settle down to a snail's pace.

The 2nd implement of "torture" is the rolled up newspaper. Again, no contact is ever made. The only contact is my hand against the paper. The noise is enough to scare the dogs out of whatever behavior they are exhibiting.

The Jacks will tend to be a bit more unruly with certain things then other breeds. We've had our problems with both Peet and Kay and I always find a way to work through them with no blood being spilled. (Mine or theirs).

Anyone else use items like this in behavior mod?

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When I need to do something to interrupt a behaviour, such as barking at someone or going near something I don't want him around either a sharp "oi" or clapping my hands are the best thing to get his attention back on me - all without having to lay a hand on him. Naturally he is then praised for doing the right thing.
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:43 PM   #354 (permalink)
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I usually just say a loud, stern "No" and "Ahht" or just loudly clap my hands together to stop an unwanted behavior.... and that always works very well for me. I am known by others around me for being very stern when training my dogs, but I never hit them or threaten them in any way. Of course, I reward them with treats and lots of praise when they are doing what I have asked them to do.
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For me I will usually smack him in the butt or pop him on the nose with a very loud "No!". It usually does the job.


However sometimes I can get quite frustrated and agitated that I find myself whacking him harder than usual to release frustration. I hate it...he gives me puppy dog eyes and I melt.


What's funny is even when I whack him hard he just wags his tail and looks at me like "That didn't hurt...stupid...jeesh." :O
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However sometimes I can get quite frustrated and agitated that I find myself whacking him harder than usual to release frustration. I hate it...he gives me puppy dog eyes and I melt.
There are many different ways to train dogs without hitting them.... and hitting your dog just to "release frustration" is totally uncalled for, and in my opinion very cruel. Some would even say that is a form of animal cruelty.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:40 PM   #357 (permalink)
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I am pretty sure that person is a troll. I don't think anyone here, and any real dog owners would ever harm their dogs like that poster does.
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My thoughts exactly, Punky!
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After reading other posts made by that user...maybe this person is not a troll afterall..Which makes it pretty sad.

Hitting a dog will NOT solve anything...and I cannot believe anyone would hit their dogs as a form of discipline..just like I don't believe in spanking children. I personally would never hit my dogs...they don't view that as "Oh I am being hit because I did something wrong"..They don't know why its happening. And hitting a dog really hard to let out frustration? That is absolutely horrible.
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I would never hit my dog out of frustration.... That is simply barbaric! Besides, that's what my kids are for!!!!!



Seriously though once you make you're dogs afraid of you, all you're doing is gaining your dogs attention out of fear for it's own life rather then out of love for it's owner. Think about that the next time you goto Tee-off on fido....

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