Iams/Eukanuba and Animal Testing

[xibo]

Just wondering if everyone was aware of the animal testing that iams conducts. Of all of the pet food companies out there, Iams, who also manufactures Eukanuba, is by far the worst. I have posted some links below for more information. And, for those of you who don't know what "vivisection" is, here's a definition: The act or practice of cutting into or otherwise injuring living animals, especially for the purpose of scientific research.

Iams is a very popular food brand, at least around here, and very few people know of the atrocities that are going on behind this company's laboratory doors. Some people will probably disagree with my opinion on laboratory testing, saying that it's necessary to advance in some areas. This is simply untrue, especially in regards to dog food. Cell cultures and in vitro testing (testing cells or other living tissue rather than testing on a living animal) can discover as much information as that of testing on a live animal.

There is simply no need of torturing a living thing so that a company can make more money by proclaiming their food to be "scientifically proven to be the best". All that means is that they've killed thousands of animals so they can make that claim, sell more food and make more money.

It's disgusting and I just think it's pertinent information for any dog lover.

Thanks for listening.



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[xibo]

Ooops! Just reread my post and realized the first link on there has NOTHING to do with what I've said. I apologize. Anyone who has ever played Mike Tyson's punchout on Nintendo would appreciate it, but it is in no way related to my post. This: http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm
is the link I meant to post first.

Again, very sorry.

[c0_re]

Glad I switched to Nutro after feeding my puppy Lam\Rice Eukenuba for the first couple puppy monthes(was still researching foods) I know now and am glad I made the switch especially after reading this stuff.

[calgal]

I don't believe in animal testing at all, but I'm also a bit leary about their asking for donations. Who is this Company? Has anyone checked them out? And who is benifiting from the money sent to them. Are they legitimate? Please do a bit of checking out before sending money. I was burnt once before on a similar ad.

[AlaskanKristen]

I believe that it's PETA...

Actually, the ASPCA does facility checks on them (Iams, not PETA), and they seem to be doing quite well.
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...k7qmmu1.app28b

[jcsperson]

It looks like PETA is at the bottom of this. They're the same outfit that puts down nearly 90% of the animals they take in.

Oh wait....I have an idea! I'll start a web site making wacko accusations and seek donations from gullible animal lovers. I'm gonna be rich!

[shandoggy1]

Originally Posted by jcsperson

It looks like PETA is at the bottom of this. They're the same outfit that puts down nearly 90% of the animals they take in.

Oh wait....I have an idea! I'll start a web site making wacko accusations and seek donations from gullible animal lovers. I'm gonna be rich!

We can consider the source, but either way Iams is still terrible food.

[My4Dogs]

Peta has been at this for as long as I can remember. They are notorious for attracking Iams. They also throw pies in people's faces that they don't agree with. Pretty grown up, huh? I would never believe anything that Peta says or does, period.

ASPCA does have a program with Iams where they have unanounced inspections of the Iams plant. Sounds to me like Iams is trying to cooperate.

My dogs eat Iams and they are doing fine and I trust this company a lot more than I trust Peta.

[PawNclaws]

I've heard and see(picture wise) what Peta does and have known for quite some time now. I dont like animal testing, its just to much to express for me what I actually feel about Peta- to much to handle to actually see pictures of cats laying on tables, dogs sickly with liver problems and kidney problems, skin problems- list goes on. Its just not fair for them to make these poor babies suffer like that.

[BellFounder]

All those links and all that information is pure rubbish. It is made up by animal rights activists who are nothing more than terrorists and should be SHUNNED not supported.
These practices have not gone on for many many many years and were fairly isolated incidents before that.
Another example of gross exaggeration and downright misleading lies by PETA and other diabolical animal rights organisations.

[xibo]

"These practices have not gone on for many many many years and were fairly isolated incidents before that.
Another example of gross exaggeration and downright misleading lies by PETA and other diabolical animal rights organisations."

I don't mean to be rude, but how ignorant can a person be?

Animal testing is quite common practice actually. Being a third-year med student, I'm quite well informed about the matter since most of it is done to "benefit" human-beings in the name of medicine. In recent years there has been much improvement, this is true, but in my humble opinion, even one lab doing testing is too many.

Though PETA might be a bit radical at times they've also done a lot to bring to light the horrible things that happen in animal testing labs. Sometimes this organization does things that I don't agree with, but I feel that showing the public what goes on behind some closed doors is useful. If no one cared enough to investigate these labs then the improvements would never have happened. Of course Proctor and Gamble and Iams have cleaned up their act recently, they were forced to when the results of this investigation were released. Here's a link where you can see a video that was taken during the investigation at one of the Iams labs. (it's toward the bottom of the page). I'm pretty sure that's not fake blood on those beagles. http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spri...tFood/Iams.htm

While I'm sure PETA has sensationalized some of their claims, the fact remains that testing is being done.
To dismiss it all as the rantings of "terrorists" is extremely ignorant as far as I'm concerned. Again, I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone, merely putting the information out there for you to make up your own minds about. I'm in no way some crazed militant about this issue, but I find it very distressing. I'm not a vegan, not a vegetarian, I don't throw pies in people's faces, but at the same time, I can't ignore information that blatantly shows that Proctor and Gamble (who own Iams) are using practices that I disagree strongly with. Yet another link: http://www.pg.com/science/Brochure%2...1C0HWAVABHOLKG

this one is to proctor and gamble's own brochure where they say "Research involving animals is a last resort at P&G. We consider it only when we have exhausted all other reasonable options to ensure our products are safe and effective." Great. They use animals as a last resort. Who decides when it's time for the last resort? Who decides when all other reasonable options have been exhausted?

It's true, a couple of the links I posted are extremely left-wing and seem pretty out there, but that doesn't mean the information provided therein isn't true in part or in whole. When a company actually says in their brochure (see above) that they test on animals, whether it be as a "last resort" or not, my dog isn't going to eat their food.

What anyone feeds their pet is completely up to them and I don't think people who feed Iams are monsters. I just think this information is good to have when making the decision on what to feed your pet. I didn't mean to start an argument, just wanted to put that info out there for anyone who thinks it might be useful.

[AlaskanKristen]

Considering that 99% of what PETA has on subejcts I know about are wrong, I take everything they say with a grain of salt. If you read the article that they originally wrote on the subject, you'll see some contradicting statements about what they "saw". Let me dig it up for you and post it on here...

[AlaskanKristen]

http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams.asp

"They felt the sweltering heat and humidity in the kennels. Then they walked out. But the animals couldn’t."

"A puppy and an adult dog from that group died during our investigation, most likely the result of neglect and temperatures that fell below 34 degrees in the building."

"coworkers who talked about a live kitten who was washed down a drain"

Oh yeah, that's possible.

[Pippinislove]

I have a hard time believing anything PETA says. I take everything that comes from that organization with a CostCo sized bag of salt.

[linnie]

Originally Posted by Pippinislove

I have a hard time believing anything PETA says. I take everything that comes from that organization with a CostCo sized bag of salt.

Well said