Many breeds being bred too big!!

theGOOCH · 11-11-2004, 02:00 PM

What's up with so many breeds being bred much bigger than the standard these days?

It seems like every Lab I see these days is over 100# (and not necessarily fat). I used to work with someone who had a 120# Doberman! If you want a Dane or a Mastiff, then just get one

fireworksinjuly · 11-11-2004, 02:02 PM

i agree...id be scared of their "large" verson of a mastif

Ritz459 · 11-11-2004, 03:19 PM

I don't know either....Everybody either wants a really HUGE, scary looking dog, or a really small cute looking one.....I don't get it....I prefer medium size dogs myself....

BXRchic · 11-11-2004, 03:20 PM

yep, there are a lot of 90+lb boxers walking around too!
(I'm tired of people seeing my 51.3lb boxer (females: 50-65lbs) and them saying "wow, she's small... for a boxer!)

And then I have to say "no.... she's right where she's supposed to be... for a boxer. But wow, your 50lb chihuahua is huge!"
(just kidding on the last part)

PitBullie09 · 11-11-2004, 03:29 PM

Yea..I was lookin through dog Fancy the other day and they had a 190lb Pit..I was like my god...Aint they supposed to be like 50-90lbs..hmm?I like all sizes though..

Crossfire Bulldogs · 11-11-2004, 03:42 PM

The thing that bothers me most about this wether they br bred too big or too small is that the national clubs are the ones that set the breed "standard" and many seem to change this at a whim depending on what seems to be most popular for any given time.

Many breeders also seem to breed for a particular "look" that the judges seem to like rather than sticking to the set standard. It seems to me that the standards are there for a reason and if judges were more apt to adhere to the standard that their supposedly supposed to base their judging on we wouldn't have breeders attempting to "improve" on the standard.

Wether someone shows or not if the set standard became more the accepted belief, the national clubs didn't continue to change of a whim it would all have a trickle down effect. Just my opinion

theGOOCH · 11-11-2004, 04:17 PM

I worry about hip displasia. My dobie is about 85 lbs which is at the higher end of the standard. I can't imagine thinking he needs to be bigger to look intimidating. He's a big goofball, but sometimes people will cross the street so they won't have to walk past him

PitBullie09 · 11-11-2004, 04:56 PM

Same with my pittie..People will walk 20 feet around him and I say he wont bite..And they be looking at me like I'm crazy.

FurryAngel33 · 11-11-2004, 05:07 PM

190 pound pit!! HOLY COW

Adn a 1.3 pound poodle
I mean get real that is crazy

They look deformed when they are so small

I perfer small dogs but a 5pound dog is as amall as I'll go
90bounds is the highest I'll go

DarknessDivine · 11-11-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BXRchic

yep, there are a lot of 90+lb boxers walking around too!
(I'm tired of people seeing my 51.3lb boxer (females: 50-65lbs) and them saying "wow, she's small... for a boxer!)

And then I have to say "no.... she's right where she's supposed to be... for a boxer. But wow, your 50lb chihuahua is huge!"
(just kidding on the last part)

My Dracs is only 53lbs and we hear he's small all the time..but Zeus will probably be 100lbs both his parents were very very big... :shiver:
Think of this Zeus is 3 months old and weights 30lbs already...

GreenleafGreyhound · 11-11-2004, 10:22 PM

I have a problem with people breeding away from the standard and going super HUGE and/or super small. The problem I have is that some breeders don't test their dogs hips. This wreaks havoc on a large breed dog whose parents were not tested and if the breed is susceptible to HD. I just don't see the point in breeding for a huge or tiny tiny dog. If you want a big dog, then adopt one or look at bigger breeds.

dinkydog · 11-12-2004, 03:17 AM

GOOCH - You have the most beautiful dod I think I have ever seen! I don't know anything about dobermans (and you always hear the negative/bad stuff on the news) but what are they really like around kids? Are they a breed that 'anyone' can own? I have an 11 y/o and a 3 y/o and am looking to get a new addition to the family(pup). Should a doberman even be something I'm considering? I'll admit, I'm a sucker for pretty dogs and it's the looks I go for first when choosing a dog to get (meaning that i pick a breed and try to find the best temperament).

Dobies just have that cool look to them. Do they like to be inside? Do they sleep in the bed with you? Are they really bred to be fighters? Please don't take offense to that - it's just that I see your dog and yearn...lol. I'd love to have one -but don't know if I should.

theGOOCH · 11-12-2004, 06:37 AM

Dinkydog,

Thank you. Dobermans are not viscious unless they are trained that way (just like any dog) . Blitz is a very gentle and affectionate dog. Dobermans are very intelligent and are quite good at knowing when protective behavior is appropriate and when it is not.
They have been called "velcro dogs" because they like to follow you everywhere and be near you. I have a 2 month old son and he is great with him. That being said, a Dobie is not for everyone; they are not couch potatoes! They are very high energy and need lots of exercise. Even walks on a leash are not usually good enough, you need a safe area where they can run and burn off some energy or they will be unhappy and most likely drive you nuts! I take him hiking or go to fenced in parks early in the morning when noone else is there to let him run off leash.

theGOOCH · 11-12-2004, 06:40 AM

....also even though you know your Dobie is friendly, be prepared for 80-90% of people you come across to be terrified of him.

DarknessDivine · 11-12-2004, 07:11 AM

My dad used to own dobbies when I was young....he bred then for bad reasons though that I won't get into and to this day can't believe..But they are lovable dogs, we had one that was in love with cheese..lol...I remember feeding him/her slices of it..
But yeah a boxer is a very lovable and happy dog too unless trained to attack or is mistreated severely...

11-11-2004, 02:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
theGOOCH Doberman Pinscher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Posts: 754 Rep Power: 98	Many breeds being bred too big!! What's up with so many breeds being bred much bigger than the standard these days? It seems like every Lab I see these days is over 100# (and not necessarily fat). I used to work with someone who had a 120# Doberman! If you want a Dane or a Mastiff, then just get one

11-11-2004, 02:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
fireworksinjuly Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,585 Rep Power: 142	i agree...id be scared of their "large" verson of a mastif
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11-11-2004, 03:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ritz459 "Nothing is ever easy" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,722 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 235	I don't know either....Everybody either wants a really HUGE, scary looking dog, or a really small cute looking one.....I don't get it....I prefer medium size dogs myself....
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11-11-2004, 03:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
BXRchic Momma to a Boxer Girl Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Area, PA Posts: 333 Rep Power: 85	yep, there are a lot of 90+lb boxers walking around too! (I'm tired of people seeing my 51.3lb boxer (females: 50-65lbs) and them saying "wow, she's small... for a boxer!) And then I have to say "no.... she's right where she's supposed to be... for a boxer. But wow, your 50lb chihuahua is huge!" (just kidding on the last part)
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11-11-2004, 03:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
PitBullie09 ACD/Pit Bull Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,477 Rep Power: 131	Yea..I was lookin through dog Fancy the other day and they had a 190lb Pit..I was like my god...Aint they supposed to be like 50-90lbs..hmm?I like all sizes though..
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11-11-2004, 03:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Crossfire Bulldogs Sourmug Mom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Snuggled Between The Snorts & Snores. Posts: 7,844 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 285	The thing that bothers me most about this wether they br bred too big or too small is that the national clubs are the ones that set the breed "standard" and many seem to change this at a whim depending on what seems to be most popular for any given time. Many breeders also seem to breed for a particular "look" that the judges seem to like rather than sticking to the set standard. It seems to me that the standards are there for a reason and if judges were more apt to adhere to the standard that their supposedly supposed to base their judging on we wouldn't have breeders attempting to "improve" on the standard. Wether someone shows or not if the set standard became more the accepted belief, the national clubs didn't continue to change of a whim it would all have a trickle down effect. Just my opinion
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11-11-2004, 04:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
theGOOCH Doberman Pinscher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Posts: 754 Rep Power: 98	I worry about hip displasia. My dobie is about 85 lbs which is at the higher end of the standard. I can't imagine thinking he needs to be bigger to look intimidating. He's a big goofball, but sometimes people will cross the street so they won't have to walk past him

11-11-2004, 04:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
PitBullie09 ACD/Pit Bull Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,477 Rep Power: 131	Same with my pittie..People will walk 20 feet around him and I say he wont bite..And they be looking at me like I'm crazy.
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11-11-2004, 05:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
FurryAngel33 :] Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: 102	190 pound pit!! HOLY COW Adn a 1.3 pound poodle I mean get real that is crazy They look deformed when they are so small I perfer small dogs but a 5pound dog is as amall as I'll go 90bounds is the highest I'll go
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11-11-2004, 10:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
GreenleafGreyhound Good Dog - Greyt Peke Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern CA Posts: 736 Rep Power: 103	I have a problem with people breeding away from the standard and going super HUGE and/or super small. The problem I have is that some breeders don't test their dogs hips. This wreaks havoc on a large breed dog whose parents were not tested and if the breed is susceptible to HD. I just don't see the point in breeding for a huge or tiny tiny dog. If you want a big dog, then adopt one or look at bigger breeds.
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11-12-2004, 03:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
dinkydog Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 78	GOOCH - You have the most beautiful dod I think I have ever seen! I don't know anything about dobermans (and you always hear the negative/bad stuff on the news) but what are they really like around kids? Are they a breed that 'anyone' can own? I have an 11 y/o and a 3 y/o and am looking to get a new addition to the family(pup). Should a doberman even be something I'm considering? I'll admit, I'm a sucker for pretty dogs and it's the looks I go for first when choosing a dog to get (meaning that i pick a breed and try to find the best temperament). Dobies just have that cool look to them. Do they like to be inside? Do they sleep in the bed with you? Are they really bred to be fighters? Please don't take offense to that - it's just that I see your dog and yearn...lol. I'd love to have one -but don't know if I should.
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11-12-2004, 06:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
theGOOCH Doberman Pinscher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Posts: 754 Rep Power: 98	Dinkydog, Thank you. Dobermans are not viscious unless they are trained that way (just like any dog) . Blitz is a very gentle and affectionate dog. Dobermans are very intelligent and are quite good at knowing when protective behavior is appropriate and when it is not. They have been called "velcro dogs" because they like to follow you everywhere and be near you. I have a 2 month old son and he is great with him. That being said, a Dobie is not for everyone; they are not couch potatoes! They are very high energy and need lots of exercise. Even walks on a leash are not usually good enough, you need a safe area where they can run and burn off some energy or they will be unhappy and most likely drive you nuts! I take him hiking or go to fenced in parks early in the morning when noone else is there to let him run off leash.

11-12-2004, 06:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
theGOOCH Doberman Pinscher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Posts: 754 Rep Power: 98	....also even though you know your Dobie is friendly, be prepared for 80-90% of people you come across to be terrified of him.

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DarknessDivine Boxer Mom Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 1,239 Rep Power: 103	My dad used to own dobbies when I was young....he bred then for bad reasons though that I won't get into and to this day can't believe..But they are lovable dogs, we had one that was in love with cheese..lol...I remember feeding him/her slices of it.. But yeah a boxer is a very lovable and happy dog too unless trained to attack or is mistreated severely...
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