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[rottielover]

Alright, I may make some people mad with this, but that is not my intention. This is all simply my opinon.

1) Pure breds are NOT worth more than mutts. The best dog I have ever had was a mutt.
2) Breeders are breeders, period. Someone who breeds Labradoodles and Goldendoodles are NOT "bad breeders" just because they don't breed dogs registered with the AKC, etc. There are good breeders of so-called designer dogs, and there are horrible breeders of pure-bred dogs.
3) I have heard that nobody who spend 500+ dollars on a pure-bred dog with clear health and no genetic defects would breed it to produce a "mutt". NOT TRUE. A lot of "mutts" have an intended purpose, and all "pure-breds" were mutts at one time.
4) People should ban ALL breeding or leave it alone. Period. Nobody has the right to tell anyone else they can't breed a particular healthy, friendly, well-tempered dog just because it isn't pure bred, and then turn around and breed another dog with the same health and temperment because it is pure-bred. We have enough dogs right now, we are overpopulated. Pure-breds are NOT excluded from this. Dogs are dogs. One is not better than another because of who its parents were. ALL breeding should be banned or left alone. There is no difference between breeding two dobermans and breeding two mongrels. The importance lies in health and temperment.
5) There is no such thing as an evil, mean breed. A dogs temperment depends on how it is raised and handled. Some breeds are more predisposed to protective or dominant behavior, but if handled correctly, can be sweet and loveable. The gentlest dog I have ever had was a pit-bull and doberman mix. The most aggressive dog I have ever had was a toy poodle. Take this into consideration, when a doberman, rottie, or pittie bites someone, it is one of the top stories on the news. If someone is bitten by a lab or spaniel it is shown once, maybe. Or not shown at all. Hundreds of people are bitten by dogs every day. Only certain cases involving certain breeds get media attention. This has destroyed the reputation of many breeds that don't deserve the bad rep.

[rottielover]

What Are your thoughts on this, it just got me irratated

[britishbandit]

I'd say.......wow, that irritates me too. What a bunch of phooey, the only slight thing I agree with in regards to breeding, is that any breeding adds to the overpopulation problem. Even ethical breeders produce a percentage of pet quality dogs, but at least they are taking all the steps to maintain or improve the breed.

[Ritz459]

Grrr. I disagree with LOTS of those claims except for:

1) Pure breds are NOT worth more than mutts. The best dog I have ever had was a mutt.

and

5) There is no such thing as an evil, mean breed. A dogs temperment depends on how it is raised and handled. Some breeds are more predisposed to protective or dominant behavior, but if handled correctly, can be sweet and loveable. The gentlest dog I have ever had was a pit-bull and doberman mix. The most aggressive dog I have ever had was a toy poodle. Take this into consideration, when a doberman, rottie, or pittie bites someone, it is one of the top stories on the news. If someone is bitten by a lab or spaniel it is shown once, maybe. Or not shown at all. Hundreds of people are bitten by dogs every day. Only certain cases involving certain breeds get media attention. This has destroyed the reputation of many breeds that don't deserve the bad rep.

Everything else is just a load of bull. There can be no ethical breeders of mutts because that goes against the definition of ethical breeder! And just to save my breath (or would that fingers?) I won't rant on and on about the other points made....

[rottielover]

I am the same way....I have owned both, nothing is more special about my pure breeder dog compared to the mutts I used to own......They were all special is some magical way

[MazieDog]

1) Pure breds are NOT worth more than mutts. The best dog I have ever had was a mutt.

I agree. I would never put a price on my furkid.. She's my baby and if anyone wanted to take her from me, they'll have to pry her out of my cold, dead hands.

2) Breeders are breeders, period. Someone who breeds Labradoodles and Goldendoodles are NOT "bad breeders" just because they don't breed dogs registered with the AKC, etc. There are good breeders of so-called designer dogs, and there are horrible breeders of pure-bred dogs.

Au contraire.. There is a lot more to breeding than mating the two dogs.. Sure, anyone can take two hot & bothered dogs, put them in the same room, and let them go at it.. A true breeder would stand by in case anything should happen. They help in the birthing process to make sure none of the pups get stuck in the birth canal, or whatever other problems may occur. They help mama in any way possible. So I'm going to have to disagree.. A breeder is not JUST a breeder.. but they're also a midwife, nurse, emotional support, etc... I once knew a "breeder" who let her dog have her pups under the house because she didn't want to mess up her carpet.. This... is not a breeder nor will I ever consider her to be one.. *sigh*

The problem I have with Labradoodles, goldenoodles, and whatever else they've got out there is this: The people who breed them breed them for money.. There's people in my area who are breeding and selling them for $1200, and that's not right. They try to get the temperment from one breed mixed with the non-shedding coat of the other, and while it sometimes works, not all of the pups in the litter will be the way the breeder inteded for them to be.. And what irritates me the most is the people who are stupid enough to buy one for $1200 and then turn around a few months later and either take it to the pound or have it PTS because it's not what they hoped it would be. For pete's sake, if you want a "designer" breed that bad, check with your local shelter.. Chances are, they'll have one..

3) I have heard that nobody who spend 500+ dollars on a pure-bred dog with clear health and no genetic defects would breed it to produce a "mutt". NOT TRUE. A lot of "mutts" have an intended purpose, and all "pure-breds" were mutts at one time.

While I agree that a lot of "mutts" have a purpose, I do not agree that people should breed just because they can. The shelters have enough animals as it is without us adding to it. And yes, I am aware that even reputable breeders can (and have) added to pet overpopulation, but at least they make a valliant effort to improve the breed.

4) People should ban ALL breeding or leave it alone. Period. Nobody has the right to tell anyone else they can't breed a particular healthy, friendly, well-tempered dog just because it isn't pure bred, and then turn around and breed another dog with the same health and temperment because it is pure-bred. We have enough dogs right now, we are overpopulated. Pure-breds are NOT excluded from this. Dogs are dogs. One is not better than another because of who its parents were. ALL breeding should be banned or left alone. There is no difference between breeding two dobermans and breeding two mongrels. The importance lies in health and temperment.

Reputable breeders don't just look at the health and temperment of the two dogs who are about to mate.. Long before they even think about breeding, they look down the line and check previous generations and look for problems lying within that may have possibly skipped a generation. They gather lots of valuable information before making the big decision... And yes, it's a big decision; something you gotta be committed to and you have to not mind getting a bit messy..

5) There is no such thing as an evil, mean breed. A dogs temperment depends on how it is raised and handled. Some breeds are more predisposed to protective or dominant behavior, but if handled correctly, can be sweet and loveable. The gentlest dog I have ever had was a pit-bull and doberman mix. The most aggressive dog I have ever had was a toy poodle. Take this into consideration, when a doberman, rottie, or pittie bites someone, it is one of the top stories on the news. If someone is bitten by a lab or spaniel it is shown once, maybe. Or not shown at all. Hundreds of people are bitten by dogs every day. Only certain cases involving certain breeds get media attention. This has destroyed the reputation of many breeds that don't deserve the bad rep.

I couldn't agree more. I've seen more small dogs who were vicious than large dogs.. And those small teeth HURT! This is one of the reasons why I stopped watching the news.. I think I've only seen on one occasion on the news where a smaller dog bit someone, and that's when that 6 month old baby was killed by the pomeranian.. Any other time it's usually a pitbull, rottie, or another "dangerous" breed being reported, and it seems like 90% of those are mis-labeled and aren't pitties, rotties, or whatever at all.. Some people have gone as far as to report a vicious dog that wasn't even vicious! *sigh*

And there's my two cents..

[rottielover]

Thank you guys, this woman in the other side is alittle wacko, I wanted everyones opinion on this, and I appreciate it

[Sayuri]

I agree - a lot of the points she's got up there are poorly argued, poorly reasoned. She hasn't thought things out to their full extent. The only two points I can agree with are the same two that everyone else has pulled out - that a mutt in not worth less than a purebred, and no breed of dog is evil.

[Cassiepeia]

Honestly I see no point to posting this if the original author is not here to defend herself.
As far as I'm concerned this is nothing more than bashing someone for having a point of view. Regardless of whether you think their opinions are intelligent or not.

Cass.

[Crossfire Bulldogs]

I agree and see no reason for this post to remain open. If someone feels there are worthy topics within this original then please, feel free to start your own debate on the subject in proper form and we can go from there. Thanks