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Old 10-24-2004, 05:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Healthy Dry FOOD???

Dose anybody kno a couple of nutritious kinds of dog food??
What are the recomended nutition values for dry dog food?
And My guess is that a small dog breed should get small breed puppy food as a puppy because is develops faster then a large breed, is that right?
And as an adult would it be better to by a small breed dog food?
For Science Diet dog food do you think I could use there puppy formula in small bites when my dog is a puppy?
and then use the sdult food in regular when its an adult?
Last question I promise, when a dog food says small bites dose that mean its smaller food or for small dogs??/

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Old 10-24-2004, 05:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wellness is a good brand..and I'm sure the other ppl here have some more ideas for ya..
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Old 10-24-2004, 06:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Toypoodlelvr,

I STRONGLY recommend against Science Diet. Science Diet is primarily grains. If you check out the teeth on your dog, s/he sure wasn't made primarily for grains. Always ALWAYS find a food that stresses meat or some other protein such as fish.
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And My guess is that a small dog breed should get small breed puppy food as a puppy because is develops faster then a large breed, is that right?
I really think it's vice-versa. I'm not completely sure, however. Also, I really don't recommend "small dog formulas" or "puppy formulas", etc. etc. That's just my personal preference. However, some high-quality dog foods have growth and senior formulas (i.e. Wysong's Growth Formula). I think when a food says Small bites it means smaller chunks of kibble (I wouldn't know. I don't use those foods).

When looking for a Good food, it should include:
Some type of protein as its very first ingredient. Nothing less! The source of protein should be specified and it should NOT be a by-product. For example, a good food will have beef/meal, lamb/meal, chicken/meal, etc. as its first ingredient. NOT chicken by-product or poultry meal (or anything like this).
The food should NOT contain BHT, BHA, Ethoxyquin, or propylene glycol.
The food can list grains but never be Ingredient #1.
The food should include nutritious items such as blueberries.
NO Dye or Artificial colorings. I know there are more guidelines but my brain has turned to mush.

Some good food:
Wysong
Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul
Canidae
Wellness
Innova
Solid gold
Blue Buffalo
Pinnacle
Natural Balance
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Old 10-24-2004, 06:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you want a good brand of food, try something that is approved by the Whole Dog Journal. I think small bites just means smaller pieces. Brands approved by the WDJ include Flint River Ranch, Wellness, Innova, Solid Gold, etc.
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Here is Science Diet Puppy Formula Ingredient List:
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Ground corn, poultry by-product meal, soybean meal, animal fat (preserved with BHA, propyl gallate and citric acid), dried beet pulp, brewers rice, dicalcium phosphate, vegetable oil, natural flavor, iodized salt, choline chloride, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite, vitamin A supplement, D-activated animal sterol, vitamin E supplement, niacin, thiamine, preserved with BHT and BHA, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement.
and here is Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul:
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Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, turkey meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, oatmeal, potatoes, cracked pearled barley, millet, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), duck, salmon, egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, kelp, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, chicory root extract, carrots, peas, apples, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, chicory root extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, menadione dimethylpyrimidinol bisulfite (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid
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And just to prove that Science Diet is as low as you can get, Here is the ingredients list for Pinnacle:
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Chicken Meal, Chicken, Whole Oat Flour, Toasted Oats, Tomato Pomace, Fresh Potato, Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols), Quinoa, Dehydrated Mixed Vegetables (Carrot Flakes, Red and Green Bell Peppers, Broccoli, Peas, Tomato Flakes, Celery, Garlic, Spinach and Parsley), Grapeseed Oil, Cottage Cheese, Egg Product, Lecithin, Rosemary and Sage Extract, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Cloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Calcium Pantothenate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin A Acetate, Ascorbic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Maganese Amino Acid Complex, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper SulfateCopper Amino Acid Complex, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papain, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Bifidobacterium Bifidum Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus Licheniformis Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Lactis Fermentation Product
Interesting comparison, eh?
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Natura Pet's comparison thing is completely slanted. Their ingredient lists for a few foods are not correct and skip around. Just my two cents.
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Well then, one can go to each food co. and find out from them.

Some good foods are Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul (as was mentioned)
Innova
Canidae
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You can get some more ideas off that thing and further research it.
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What are the recomended nutition values for dry dog food?
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...5&S=1&EVetID=0

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And as an adult would it be better to by a small breed dog food?
Yes, or you can break up larger kibble with your fingers.

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]For Science Diet dog food do you think I could use there puppy formula in small bites when my dog is a puppy? and then use the sdult food in regular when its an adult?
Yes.

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Last question I promise, when a dog food says small bites dose that mean its smaller food or for small dogs??
It means small size kibble.

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Yes, or you can break up larger kibble with your fingers.

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Artemis has a small breed kibble. There are many opinions as to feeding size specific food. I am for it, especially while they are growing.

Ingredients:
Chicken, Turkey, Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, Pearled Barley, Chicken Fat (preserved with Vitamin E, C and Rosemary Extract), Oatmeal, Dried Eggs, Fish Meal, Natural Flavoring, Canola Oil, Flaxseed, Fresh Potatoes, Fresh Carrots, Fresh Peas, Whole Fresh Apples, Cranberries, Dried Chicory Root (Prebiotics), Salt, Potassium Chloride, Lecithin, Gar
lic, DL-Methionine, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Choline Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Dehydrated Kelp, Chelates of Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Potassium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Sage Extract, Aspergillus Oryzae Fermantation Soulubles (Digestive Enzyme), Enterococcus Faecium and Lactobacillus Acidophilus(Probiotics

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein, min.29
Crude Fat, min.18
Crude Fiber, max.2.2
Moisture, max. 10
Omega 6, Fatty Acid, min3.6
Omega 3, Fatty Acid, min .4
HE 348 kcal/cup 98oz)

There have also been so excellent suggestion....many of which I have used for my dogs!

Another food that I use for one meal a day of The Honest Kitchen www.thehonestkitchen.com . It is a great food and my dogs LOVE it!!!
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I own 2 toy poodles and I feed them Innova. They don't have any problems eating the kibble and they love it.
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Innova is a great food. I wish I could get it here. The feed stores I use can't even order it because it's not one of the companies they have a "contract" with. (or whatever...)
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