Spices & Food, Bad & Good, All You Need to Know!

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Avoid These Foods for Dogs

NOTE!: Alot of links were lost cutting and pasting on to this post, you must go to the website in order to get the links.

I read off of this website that you should avoid:

*"Pacific Northwest Salmon
*Feeding Kibble and Raw at the Same Time
*Onions and Rhubarb
*All Cooked Bones!
*Grapes and Raisins
*Rawhide Chewies
*Grains"

#1. Salmon has a parasite in it.

"Raw Pacific Northwest Salmon (quoted from "Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats" by Kymythy Schultze) "Salmon poisoning is an infectious disease caused by a rickettsia that uses a parasite fluke on salmon as a host. It is mainly found in Pacific salmon, but any suspect fish may be tested. Avoid this danger by knowing the quality of the fish you are feeding to your pets."

It is possible that deep freezing the salmon for one week will kill any parasites, but I still feel it is best to just avoid raw salmon all together. Check out these web sites: MFC, Bouvherd's Dog House or Showdog Magazine."

I know there is a lot of parasites in fish, and going by this website you should just avoid salmon. Although, you could get other types of fish. You could feed them natural fish-sticks human grade. It's best to just find out if the fish is certified before your dog eats it.

#2. Kibble & Raw Diet At the Same Time.

"Feeding Kibble and Raw at the Same Time in order to switch over slowly can cause problems. Go cold turkey! Raw food and kibble are digested at different rates. Raw can pass through the dog in 4-6 hours, whereas a kibble may take up to 24 hours.

A possible scenario when feeding both: Let's say you feed a kibble meal for breakfast and then a raw meal for dinner. Raw food usually does not cause problems with salmonella or e-coli poisoning because it passes through a dog so fast. But when it has to sit in the system for a longer period of time, due to the slow digestion of the kibble, problems may occur. Odorous gasses may be the least of them!

So, start your puppy or grown dog immediately on raw food. Adult dogs may need to be fasted for a day to finish digesting the kibble that may still be in their system. Puppies should never be fasted!"

Ahh, it's coming to me... at last, I think it may be the truth of the matter! Raw food does go fast through the system, and I never knew that kibble took so long to digest. Now I know that switching, and using both to go to the raw would be disasterous.

#3. Onions & Rhubarb.

"Onions and Rhubarb should probably be left out of a raw, natural diet."

Rhubarb, its leaves are poisonous if eaten by humans. Dogs would have the same level of poisoning due to there weight as the stalk of rhubarb still has trace amounts of toxins, you should cook it first. Onions, however even when cooked still retain the negative effects when digested by your dog.

#4. Cooked Bones.

"All Cooked Bones! Cooked bones can splinter and lodge in the throat, stomach or intestines. Most likely, this is the problem that vets are talking about when they say that bones are bad for dogs. And besides, there isn't much nutritional value in a cooked bone, so why give 'em?

Something I have noticed with my dog, Roxy: A friend of mine gave her a cooked beef T-bone (without my permission). I found out Less than a minute later and had to retrieve it from half way down her throat! I can't even imagine what problems those sharp ends would have caused! A raw fed dog is used to chewing and swallowing a bone, sometimes whole. Giving a cooked bone to a raw fed dog is just far too dangerous!"

All bones when cooked, or not are very harmfull. Most people should really stop giving bones to your dog. I would suggest using regular treats. No chicken bone, beef, pork, sheep, NO. When cooked, bones release all there cartilage making them brittle and prone to breaking and chipping. Internal bleeding is very bad for your dog.

#5. Grapes & Raisins.

"Grapes and Raisins have been found to possibly cause kidney failure in susceptible dogs. It usually requires a large amount to cause any damage (12-14 oz.) but very few dogs survive from this overindulgence. Check out the ASPCA for more info. Meanwhile, it may not be a good idea to have grape vines that your dog can get to."

Geese! O.K. It speaks for itself, dont' feed your dog grapes & raisins!

#6. Rawhide & Alternatives.

"Rawhide Chewies Well, most of them. Do not buy the white ones tied in a knot at both ends. Reasons: White is not natural, this product has been bleached. Virtually all rawhide products come from outside the US, mostly from Brazil where laws on what type of chemicals can be added to these products are very lax. Large portions can be swallowed. Since it is very hard to digest this product, it can lodge in the intestines and bring everything to a halt!

Alternatives: Kongs! A wonderful hollow, hard rubber chewie that is virtually indestructible. The Kong can be stuffed with a variety of foods. Roxy's favorite is peanut butter. It keeps her busy for a long time. Make sure your Kong is sized to your dog! Raw femur bones. By far the best choice. Contains enzymes your dog needs. Enzymes promote clean teeth, not to mention the action of chewing itself. Femur bones are best when cut about 4 inches long. Your dog will have a blast trying to get the marrow out of the middle. Watch their face...it looks like they are in Heaven! Roxy closes her eyes when licking on a bone such as described. If you absolutely have to have a rawhide chewie, get one that is all natural and steam pressed. These are usually in the shape of a bone and you can see the layers of rawhide when you look at it sidewise."

I don't really know about the man-made ones, remember greenies? Yeah, it may be sparking a thought! And wait, didn't they just say that you shouldn't feed them raw-hide? Don't grind any of your dog's edible treats, it causes problems, if you must buy one of the fake bone treats, make sure it doesn't have any plastic in it! Make sure it is 100% natural and edible!

#7. Grains.

"Grains This is a subject that many do not agree on! How could this be when commercial dog food is chock full of grains? Here is some great information: Riveriene Canine Nutrition."

The grains, I suggest that they be ground. Just like flour. Abrasive grains also can cause irritations in your dogs intestines. Humans usually have thicker intestines, we are omnivores, dogs are mostly carnivores. Dogs do need key vegetables in there diet. Dogs lack as much grinding power to pound whole grains, make it whole food ground grains.

#8. Spices.

Spices are really unknown to be very harmfull to your pet, I believe that you should be able to feed your dog small amounts of spices that are in your food. (If you give handouts). I haven't found anything about dogs and spices, so if you find anything, may you post it so I may research on it? Thank you.

Benificial Foods.

What's the Best Dog Food? Choosing the Best Food for Your Dog

Dr. Foster & Smith Are Excellent. There website should prove helpfull when choosing your dog food. I suggest you buy all-natural dog food. And all natural raw foods to ensure your dogs health and safety.

***May you post more foods and spices that are bad or benificial for your dog, and I will gladly look up the facts and post them. Any list of bad foods or spices for your dog is fine. If you strongly disagree, post your reason, and all of us will double check. Thank You.***

[dogs4life]

First off, I want to say I'm glad your researching foods, so many people don't even pay attention.

BUT...I'm sorry, some of this info is false. Drs. Foster and Smith are not good at researching subjects and I challenge a lot of their information. They skim subjects without proper explanations it really seems like they are more interested in Search Engine Ranking (keyword rich text) and selling ads than making quality information available to the public, of course just my opinion.

Sorry if I come across harsh, but I'm passionate about nutrition and sometimes this is an inflammatory subject for me. Please don't take any of this personally.

1. Pacific salmon....Ahhhhh, I hate this one. You need the fish to be infected with 2 different organisms and raw for this to be true. If it scares the pants off you and you don't have time to research your fish source, then yeah, stay away from all RAW salmonids from the Cascade mountain range and Brazil that spent anytime in saltwater. But if you are informed and know what you are getting into, it's fine. And NO deep freezing does not kill the bacteria causing disease, it's actually a way to preserve it, only the fluke, the host of the bacteria will be killed.

2. Feeding raw and kibble together in the same meal or same day is not harmful. Many dogs have no problems and the cold turkey theory is based on a small sample of dogs who had other issues, IMO of course. Do you eat raw and cooked foods in the same meal? I do.

3. There are more plants in these families where caution should be used, but people need to know "why" and what plant families they belong in order to make better decisions. What about leeks, what about wild onion, what about scallions, what about shallots...... The onions are bad theory stems from cattle being fed on range with tons of wild onion on the land. So IMO, it was dose dependent and a blanket statement with a different species of animal with unknown other issues. I'd love to see modern human, feline or canine data regarding onion toxicity, dose and mechanism.

7. Grains - Grains are not essential nutrients for canines or felines. Some people choose to use whole grains as fillers and fiber which IMO is not harmful if done with care. Animals fed low protein diets containing low quality grains long term, can get what's called "fatty liver" just like in humans, which is a carbohydrate related problem not fat. It also contributes to diabetes and other pancreatic dysfunction. Again knowing the root issues is critical. % carbs, % fiber and %protein need to be monitored. Whole grains are not meant for nutrients, just bulking up and filling, so grinding does not make sense to me, soaking or cooking makes more sense. I have used whole barley, brown rice, jasmine rice and whole oats.

8. Spices - many people, including myself use herbs in our animals diets for nutrients and medicinal purposes, but they are intentional selections. If feeding off your plate, then yes pay attention cause you might have a long night of diarrhea and vomiting. I use ginger, garlic, parsley, cilantro and mushrooms. There are great books out there to help guide your selections, Complete Herbal Handbook For The Dog & Cat by Juliette de Bairacli Levy, Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health For Dogs & Cats, 3rd ed by Richard & Susan Pitcairn and Optimal Nutrition - Raw and Cooked Canine Diets: The Next Level by Monica Segal

I've heard of people using many more herbs but I have not done research on my own so I'm not ready to try them yet. Some I have seen are Rosemary, basil, watercress, dandelion leaves, sage (but not pregnant or lactating), peppermint (whole not concentrate), and I'm sure you'll find more.

I've heard warnings against lavender, the above ground parts of the night shade family of plants, green potatoes, and I'm sure there are more.

Love to hear what you can dig up

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Okay, this is what I dug up....

*Rosemary has ingredients that help chemicals in the brain to stop breaking down. In older dogs it helps to stop Alzheimers disease.

*Just like grass, your dog can smell and use basil for upset stomach.

*Dogs have a better capability to break down plant foods, for they are omnivores! And the more veggies like watercress they get the better they are. Although you must avoid poisonous ones like onyon.

*Dandelion leaves. It’s safe to say, we eat dandelion leaves, they don’t have any toxins in them. It’s good for your dog. It’s a natural holistic food for any of your animals. Though if your dog is eating some dandelions that have been sprayed with poision, don’t let them eat them. That does for any of your pets.

*Sage is one of those herbs that still has unlocked potential in the health of any animal. It can be chewed or crushed but not entirely eaten because of its woody substance. Around the world it has been used to treat or help in the treatment from canker soars to hot flashes. Don’t give in over abundance for too much is always uneccisary.

*Peppermint can calm the nerves, clean the teath, help in digestion and much more. So you could buy a mint plant and let your dog chew on a couple leaves before bed for theeth, after a meal (bad breath).

I will keep researching more herbs, spices, veggies that you normally wouldn’t think of feeding your dog. And you can give me ideas.
Thank You.

[dogs4life]

Nice info thanks!

I've seen reports of people using Quinoa for EPI and IBD in dogs.

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Quinoa (keen-wah)

*It is a staple food, for a long, long time. it has a lot more protein than every other grain out there. Different types of quinoa contain more than twenty percent more protein than the others. It has good amino acid balance. It's as if it's milk. And among those of you with diabetes, if your dog has it too, they should eat it.

*You might want to avoid giving your dog: black pepper, cajun pepper, and keep them away from moth balls. They hate the smell and taste. But if your dog likes it, just give them what's in your food. Don't want to get evil eyes from your dog the rest of your life for feeding it mouth burning foods.......heh....