Boiled Eggs

FiReBReTHa · 08-07-2005, 09:05 PM

Loki is now up to three miles a day as well as a boiled egg a day too.

I just wanted to verify that this would be alright for him.

***Carrie*** · 08-08-2005, 08:33 AM

As far as I know, eggs are fine. I don't know that I'd give one every day though. They are a little high on cholesterol and you know the worries about Dobe's and their hearts. I give eggs once in a while for a treat. I think one or two a week would be better than every day. You know....all things in moderation. But I am not a nutritional expert. It is good to cook them because I do know there's an enzyme which binds with biotin and prevents it's absorbsion. But I don't think it's enough in an occasional egg to bother an adult dog. But for pups, eggs should be cooked.

Sheltiemama · 08-08-2005, 08:35 AM

My vet told me that three eggs a week scrambled without fat and seasoning or boiled and chopped is sufficient for a dog. He said not to feed them raw eggs though because dogs can suffer from salmonella poisioning too.

calgal · 08-08-2005, 08:27 PM

My guys get boiled or scrambled eggs for breakfast a couple of times a week. They love them!

MaryAndDobes · 08-12-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FiReBReTHa

Loki is now up to three miles a day as well as a boiled egg a day too.

I just wanted to verify that this would be alright for him.

How old is Loki? What do you mean he's doing 3 miles a day? Puppies under the age of 18 months should be allowed lots of free play and free running, but they should not be jogged or run on pavement in an enforced way (ie. jogging with the owner).

The Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog suggests 2 boiled eggs a week. Boiled for 5 minutes only so as not to kill the protein. They also suggest that brown eggs are better than white.

Mom2Many · 08-12-2005, 03:52 PM

Wow and to imagine I have been feeding raw chicken and eggs to my dogs for years without any problems with Salmonella...LOL. Dogs digestive tracts are set up to push food quickly through, it is much shorter than ours and has a much higher acidity level to be able to handle things like e-coli and salmonella. If your dog has a comprimised immune system to start with then it may be an issue.

As for the biotin, if you feed the egg comepletly whole and raw the biotin is still utilized. Nature's almost always perfect!

Sheltiemama · 08-12-2005, 04:16 PM

Hey Mom2many that's interesting... I think I'll check with some other vets in the area. If this is true I don't like the fact that my vet is telling me the opposite. Thanks for the heads up.

SalemWitchChild · 08-12-2005, 04:36 PM

I've also fed eggs on occasion without the worry of salmanella. I don't make it an everyday or even weekly treat though.

Crossfire Bulldogs · 08-12-2005, 04:37 PM

I've always fed eggs both cooked and raw.....my babies even get the shells.

fireworksinjuly · 08-12-2005, 04:41 PM

Kino gets them when I cook them...and hes been good.

Mom2Many · 08-12-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheltiemama

Hey Mom2many that's interesting... I think I'll check with some other vets in the area. If this is true I don't like the fact that my vet is telling me the opposite. Thanks for the heads up.

It's amazing what vets will tell you about canine nutrition! Most vets in the U.S. take one to two hours of class time on canine nutrition and it is almost always put on by the dog food companies like Science Diet, Iam's, and Purina. Vets have very little knowledge about canine nutritional needs. They push products in their offices and get kickbacks from the companies for what they sell. (It's kind of like people from McDonald's sitting on the panel that determines appropriate nutritional needs for adults and children, I would say a bit biased!).
So yes, I would be very interested in your vets reasons for saying no to raw eggs. Please let us know what he says!

SalemWitchChild · 08-12-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom2Many

It's amazing what vets will tell you about canine nutrition! Most vets in the U.S. take one to two hours of class time on canine nutrition and it is almost always put on by the dog food companies like Science Diet, Iam's, and Purina. Vets have very little knowledge about canine nutritional needs. They push products in their offices and get kickbacks from the companies for what they sell. (It's kind of like people from McDonald's sitting on the panel that determines appropriate nutritional needs for adults and children, I would say a bit biased!).
So yes, I would be very interested in your vets reasons for saying no to raw eggs. Please let us know what he says!

That doesn't give me much confidence in any vet. But really I already have limited trust in any person who gets compensation from large companies. My husbands dog was hit by a car once and they told him she would need a very expensive surgery which he couldn't afford. He was going to put her down then but thankfully my mother was there and told him to get a second opinion. The second opinion told him that she'd be just fine and all she needed was rest.

The second vet was right. She lived a long time after that.

Crossfire Bulldogs · 08-12-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SalemWitchChild

That doesn't give me much confidence in any vet. But really I already have limited trust in any person who gets compensation from large companies. My husbands dog was hit by a car once and they told him she would need a very expensive surgery which he couldn't afford. He was going to put her down then but thankfully my mother was there and told him to get a second opinion. The second opinion told him that she'd be just fine and all she needed was rest.

The second vet was right. She lived a long time after that.

It always pays to get a second opinion if your able to thats for sure.

Nope, I never have and never will listen to any vet on nutrition.

Sheltiemama · 08-12-2005, 05:26 PM

Woah, thanks guys I wasn't aware that their education on nutrition was that limited. I'll do my best to do my own research from now on. Thanks for the information. I do treat them the same way I treated my children's doctors by asking for explanations and reasons for proceedures and possible alternatives for those proceedures. (the first rule of life is do no harm.) If I'm not happy with his explanations I go for another opinion. I feel as though I know my dog better than he does because she lives with me and I can read her behavior better than a vet can with a visit only two or three times a year.

Sweetpea · 08-12-2005, 05:40 PM

My agility trainer told me she feeds her dogs the raw egg & shells. Also raw chicken necks. Her dogs love it. They have never been sick from it. Has anyone every read up on the barf diet for dogs? or had dogs on it?

08-07-2005, 09:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
FiReBReTHa Doberman Pinscher Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 76	Boiled Eggs Loki is now up to three miles a day as well as a boiled egg a day too. I just wanted to verify that this would be alright for him.

08-08-2005, 08:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,415 Rep Power: 285	As far as I know, eggs are fine. I don't know that I'd give one every day though. They are a little high on cholesterol and you know the worries about Dobe's and their hearts. I give eggs once in a while for a treat. I think one or two a week would be better than every day. You know....all things in moderation. But I am not a nutritional expert. It is good to cook them because I do know there's an enzyme which binds with biotin and prevents it's absorbsion. But I don't think it's enough in an occasional egg to bother an adult dog. But for pups, eggs should be cooked.
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Sheltiemama Shelties forever! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 695 Rep Power: 81	My vet told me that three eggs a week scrambled without fat and seasoning or boiled and chopped is sufficient for a dog. He said not to feed them raw eggs though because dogs can suffer from salmonella poisioning too.
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Mom2Many Owned by 1 GSD & 1 APBT Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Untangling Gunnar's Leash Posts: 873 Rep Power: 92	Wow and to imagine I have been feeding raw chicken and eggs to my dogs for years without any problems with Salmonella...LOL. Dogs digestive tracts are set up to push food quickly through, it is much shorter than ours and has a much higher acidity level to be able to handle things like e-coli and salmonella. If your dog has a comprimised immune system to start with then it may be an issue. As for the biotin, if you feed the egg comepletly whole and raw the biotin is still utilized. Nature's almost always perfect!
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Sheltiemama Shelties forever! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 695 Rep Power: 81	Hey Mom2many that's interesting... I think I'll check with some other vets in the area. If this is true I don't like the fact that my vet is telling me the opposite. Thanks for the heads up.
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08-08-2005, 08:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
calgal My Yorkster kids! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: central ca. coast Posts: 6,783 Rep Power: 229	My guys get boiled or scrambled eggs for breakfast a couple of times a week. They love them!

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SalemWitchChild Blue Merle Collie Mom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lawrenceburg, Ky Posts: 592 Rep Power: 86	I've also fed eggs on occasion without the worry of salmanella. I don't make it an everyday or even weekly treat though.
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Crossfire Bulldogs Sourmug Mom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Snuggled Between The Snorts & Snores. Posts: 7,844 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 284	I've always fed eggs both cooked and raw.....my babies even get the shells.
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08-12-2005, 05:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Sheltiemama Shelties forever! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 695 Rep Power: 81	Woah, thanks guys I wasn't aware that their education on nutrition was that limited. I'll do my best to do my own research from now on. Thanks for the information. I do treat them the same way I treated my children's doctors by asking for explanations and reasons for proceedures and possible alternatives for those proceedures. (the first rule of life is do no harm.) If I'm not happy with his explanations I go for another opinion. I feel as though I know my dog better than he does because she lives with me and I can read her behavior better than a vet can with a visit only two or three times a year.
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08-12-2005, 05:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sweetpea Emma and Lacey's Mom Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Windsor, Ontario Canada Posts: 568 Rep Power: 79	Eggs & Barf Diet My agility trainer told me she feeds her dogs the raw egg & shells. Also raw chicken necks. Her dogs love it. They have never been sick from it. Has anyone every read up on the barf diet for dogs? or had dogs on it?

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