Raw feeding and growth rates

Novel · 05-08-2006, 08:38 AM

This weekend I got into a discussion with Spirit's breeder over nutrition. She was concerned because Jazz is growing slowly and she doesn't have any experience with raw feeding and is concerned that they're not getting the nutrition they require. I encounter this quite often and have found that the raw diet is quickly become a more and more polarized issue with less and less attention on the facts, as they are.
Either way, Jazz, who will be 6 months on the 23rd (where did the time go) and has her first show that following weekend is 21" tall at the whithers as of Saturday. She has been growing consistently and evenly her entire life. Our standard calls for 23" - 25" in bitches, and I have no doubts that she will be within that standard somewhere at maturation.
Talking with a fellow raw diet breeder, she confirmed that her puppies have grown much slower, they were on raw from day one, and the puppies that she placed, that are now on kibble, have far outgrown their siblings, by even inches. She said a previous litter also had this happen, but in maturation, they all ended up being about the same height and body structure.
Where am I going with all this?
Anyone have any studies or factual information that they could point me to. I'd like to do some more study in this area so that I can sound informed when I discuss their growth. Any first hand experience is also welcome. Really, any discussion is welcome, as I feel I've kind of stagnated in my research in this area. I'd appreciate any material and resource recommendations as well!!! Thanks!

calgal · 05-08-2006, 12:15 PM

i have no idea, but my own theory is, since cows, chickens and other farm animals are given steroids, and a lot of these animals go into pet and farm animal foods, (constantly being re-cycled) and this chemicals cannot be killed in the boiling process at the rendering plants, that our companion animals are having a fast start, but bad, very bad endings.

calgal · 05-08-2006, 12:19 PM

i had another thought. you can also see that organically grown veggies are generally smaller than the ones that were grown with chemicals, but the organic ones are healthier, and much better for you too.

papillon806 · 05-08-2006, 12:40 PM

I don't know about chickens, but feedlot cows are NOT given steroids. The only thing given to feedlot cattle are Melengesterol Acetate which is to keep the female cattle from cycling, which is not given 2 weeks before they are slaughtered (withdrawal period). Because of this, these hormones are not in the muscle meat.

05-08-2006, 08:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Novel Boxer Mom Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,852 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 214	Raw feeding and growth rates This weekend I got into a discussion with Spirit's breeder over nutrition. She was concerned because Jazz is growing slowly and she doesn't have any experience with raw feeding and is concerned that they're not getting the nutrition they require. I encounter this quite often and have found that the raw diet is quickly become a more and more polarized issue with less and less attention on the facts, as they are. Either way, Jazz, who will be 6 months on the 23rd (where did the time go) and has her first show that following weekend is 21" tall at the whithers as of Saturday. She has been growing consistently and evenly her entire life. Our standard calls for 23" - 25" in bitches, and I have no doubts that she will be within that standard somewhere at maturation. Talking with a fellow raw diet breeder, she confirmed that her puppies have grown much slower, they were on raw from day one, and the puppies that she placed, that are now on kibble, have far outgrown their siblings, by even inches. She said a previous litter also had this happen, but in maturation, they all ended up being about the same height and body structure. Where am I going with all this? Anyone have any studies or factual information that they could point me to. I'd like to do some more study in this area so that I can sound informed when I discuss their growth. Any first hand experience is also welcome. Really, any discussion is welcome, as I feel I've kind of stagnated in my research in this area. I'd appreciate any material and resource recommendations as well!!! Thanks!

05-08-2006, 12:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
papillon806 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	I don't know about chickens, but feedlot cows are NOT given steroids. The only thing given to feedlot cattle are Melengesterol Acetate which is to keep the female cattle from cycling, which is not given 2 weeks before they are slaughtered (withdrawal period). Because of this, these hormones are not in the muscle meat.
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05-08-2006, 12:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
calgal My Yorkster kids! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: central ca. coast Posts: 6,609 Rep Power: 222	i have no idea, but my own theory is, since cows, chickens and other farm animals are given steroids, and a lot of these animals go into pet and farm animal foods, (constantly being re-cycled) and this chemicals cannot be killed in the boiling process at the rendering plants, that our companion animals are having a fast start, but bad, very bad endings.

05-08-2006, 12:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
calgal My Yorkster kids! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: central ca. coast Posts: 6,609 Rep Power: 222	i had another thought. you can also see that organically grown veggies are generally smaller than the ones that were grown with chemicals, but the organic ones are healthier, and much better for you too.

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