Puppy stomach upset

[Kuchi]

Kuchi had diarrhea and vomit again today. I can't think of anything that could've caused this. His stool was firm after his breakfast, but an hour later he had an explosion in his crate, and again later followed by vomit.

Could it be his food? He was on Timberwolf organic ocean, and I switched him to Timberwolf Elk and salmon within the last 2 weeks. He hasn't received anymore raw bones since the last weekend incident. His energy level is still high, he still eats and drinks.

Maybe I should go raw, the ready made patties for animals.

Any thoughts?

[Sugardog]

I think the best thing you can do at this point is to talk to your vet. Continuing to switch foods without real knowledge of what is exactly not agreeing with Kuchi could cause more harm than good.

[Cassiepeia]

I agree that this is something you should talk to your vet about. Don't change is food again until after you've spoken to the vet.

Cass.

[for_dogs_sake]

It could well be the switch in food. Especially if it wasn't gradual.
I am not sure how old Kuchi is, but as you are saying puppy, i would agree with the other advice to take him to a vet.
Vomiting and Diarrhea no matter how mild should be checked out when it comes to pups.
Otherwise i would have suggested with-holding food for a meal time and giving something bland like boiled rice and skinless chicken for the next meal and take it from there.
But like i said; puppy = vets

[Kuchi]

Well his stool was hard again this morning after having brown rice and chicken. The food change wasn't gradual, his old went bad. The newer food has 36% protein vs. 24% of the old.
Do you think that's a high percentage for a puppy?

As for the vomit, I found bully stick chunks in it.

EDIT: Kuchi has an appointment today, I'll let you know if anything's up.

Thanks everyone.

[Novel]

Many say that protein content depends upon the breed as well as the age.

I feed raw, and have never found a problem with too much protein. Everyone is happy and healthy.

If the change was not gradual, that could be Kuchi's problem. The food sounds very good, by the name, but, it is probably very rich. But there is also detox when you switch foods, especially quickly. My friend, who distributes Solid Gold, gets bags back from time to time because the customer tells the store that their dog threw up. Well, duh! They really need to put this on the bag, about how to switch foods and what could happen, but I suppose that would not be good for business.

[Kuchi]

With the raw diet should I assume very high protein content? If this food is making him upset I don't want the raw food as well. He does get a raw meal weekly.
I know I shouldn't assume 100% protein, but about what should I assume around 60 or 80%. I guess it would also depend on the protein source.

[Novel]

Kuchi, the protein content would depend entirely upon what you are feeding.

If you are feeding chicken quarters only, the protein content would be about: 20%

But with every vegetable or supplement you add in to that diet, you would have to change that percentage.

You can look up protein content through the USDA website. http://www.ars.usda.gov/main/site_ma...ecode=12354500

[Kuchi]

thanks

[Novel]

you are most welcome

[Sugardog]

If your interested in feeding raw, thats deffinitly something you want to consult your vet about. You need to do alot of research before you switch. A raw diet is alot more complicated, requires more precautions as your handling raw meat, require more time to prepare and requires more knowledge of dog nutrition needs than a kibble. It's deffinitly not something to be taken lightly.

But the results you get from a raw diet are always worth the time and effort.

[Novel]

Although I agree sugardog that there are many concepts involved with feeding raw, I would not say a vet is your best place to get that information. My vet asks me about raw and canine nutrition, she knows nothing about it, yet I respect her for her expertise in other areas. Like anything, do your research, and find someone with knowledge to mentor you with your choice.

[Kuchi]

Well Kuchi passed all tests with flying colors!!! no parasites, nothing else wrong.

I haven't met many vets experienced with nutrition, I have taken the same amount of nutrition classes as some of them and I don't feel confident feeding raw on my own. I can tell you how much and what to feed a horse though in rations...
There are many companies out there that sell patties out of raw meat and bones, I would do that because they are convenient.
For now Kuchi is on chicken and rice to calm his stomach.

[Novel]

So kuchi is back to a normal stool on the chicken and rice? Good!

If you want to switch him to something else, just start off gradual, and make the change over a week's time, and watch his stool.

Because I do feed raw i see a different stool from each of my dog's on a daily basis, all depending upon what they have been fed. I very rarely get worried about a loose stool here and there. But that is me, and we all have different levels of risk that we can accept.

[Kuchi]

I don't mind loose stool if expected I guess. Since he's a keeshond, any loose stool gets stuck in his fur. If he was a short coated breed, no big deal. But I try and limit his baths. I like feeding him something that pretty much guarantees me hard stool. So I will stick to Timberwolf, just the lower protein varieties. I'll throw in a raw meal or two on the weekends.
I guess there's a lucky shelter around here that'll get about 10 pounds of this stuff. (I'll still use it to switch though)