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Old 11-03-2005, 10:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Hi CT, there is no doubt that Mass. has lyme, but the vets I have spoken to said that it is more out by Cape Cod and Martha's Vineyard. I live in Medford, Mass. and my vet has reports on dogs who haven't gotten it from here but from going away to Cape Cod.
Hmm..that just doesn't make sense to me. The towns in conn. up by the mass border have tons of cases. Just be careful and if any symptoms of lyme show up in your dog such as intermittant lameness in different legs or sudden onset of all over lameness, definitely test for lyme. We see it so often here we are automatically doing a combo heartworm/lyme test at work now during annuals. Many dogs with no symptoms yet are coming up high positive.
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Hey there is stuff, use a product with Permethrin, i just swear on permethrin, even use it on my bhorses. But it is there for humans, too.
Wow, this is nasty stuff. From the MSDS fact sheet

**(In mammals) the immune system (used by living things to defend themselves from disease) “appears to be a sensitive target for permethrin activity.” Ingestion of permethrin reduces the ability of immune system cells called T-lymphocytes to recognize and respond to foreign proteins

**In mammals it causes repetitive nerve impulses. It also inhibits a variety of nervous system enzymes: ATPase, whose inhibition results in increased release of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine 7; monoamine oxidase-A, the enzyme which maintains normal levels of three other neurotransmitters 8; and acetylcholinesterase, the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine and inhibits a nervous system receptor, the GABAA receptor, producing excitability and convulsions and inhibits respiration

**In humans exposure caused an increase in chromosome aberrations, chromosome fragments,26 and DNA lesions


Not something I would put on myself, my children or any animal in my care.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Uhm, i really do not want to ingest it.....

And you do not have to. it even crawls arround wounds.
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All of these things can occur with normal skin exposure, inhalation of particles or other contact with mucous membranes.

I just eat a bit more garlic and spray myself with lavender/rosemary water and mosquitos, ticks and other biting bugs leave me alone.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:17 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah i can understand that. It works , when you are not out 24/7. but i honestly prefere the permethrin, this year was so thick, that i had totreat the horses, usually i don't do that but it was a pest. and The moskitos weren't better. I prefere a little chemestry on my anymals, to a havy treatment for Lyme, or heartworm (even though they get prevention, too) or other nice desieases.
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