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Old 08-31-2004, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Banning Pit Bulls

So the government wants to banned pit bulls in ontario. All this because there was a recent incident when two pit bulls attacked the owner. It was said in the news that pit bulls are lethal weapons.

This is so wrong. My fiance owns a pit bull, and she wouldn't hurt a person EVER. She's such a loving dog, and the government is very wrong about blaming the breed. The dog's actions are the responsibility of the owners. If the dog was raised properly, i doubt that the owner would have been attack.

Pit bulls are great dogs, and i feel so bad for them when the press makes them out to be such terrible dogs.
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Old 08-31-2004, 01:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My boyfriend also owns a pit and Sacho is the most loving precious dog in the world. He doesn't even harm the cats that cross the yard or sit the porch. You're right, P1nay, it's the owner's responsiblity to train the dog to be kind and respectful of others.
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Old 08-31-2004, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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oh thats terrible.
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Read the story again.. The person attacked was baby sitting the dogs for the owner. The dogs in question were killed by police after several attempts to haul them off a 200lb+ young fit man.

There is concern because the dogs don't stop - several bystanders tried to assist the guy even by grabbing a mattress to put it between him & the attacking dogs.

This guy might lose his arm to the attack & i'm sure the owner thinks they were nice dogs too. There is a risk to the bystanders when the police had to shot them.

Who can you defend the actions of these dogs. This wasn't for self preservation - if they had stopped & calmed down - we wouldn't even be talking about this.

I have nothing against pitts in general but have a problem with everyone saying what great gentle dogs they are. They aren't all gentle and they don't quit until the attackee or the attacker are dead.

Ban them - make them a restricted weapon and ban all breeding unless by licensed - certified owners. Civil rights be damned and animal rights evoked.
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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And how would you feel if Rottie got banned from where you live? I can share my experience with what happened to a friend of my mothers. She had a rottie when she was a child, and they grew up together. After 9 yrs of being together, the dog, out of nowhere, attacked her. I still have nothing against any dog that attacks a human because the sad fact is the dogs don't see what they're doing, and people go around shooting for their own benefit knowing that murder is a crime. It isn't fair for all dogs to be blamed for the other dog's actions.

Pitbulls were bred to fight other dogs. They were also bred to be nice to human. If an unqualified breeder doesn't take temperment into consideraton, or if the owner doesn't take care and research their dog properly, problems such as attacks can occur.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have been chased down by 2 Rottie's before. And I dont dislike the breed either.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I asked a lady that works for animal control, which breed they have the most problems with when it comes to aggression/biting... she said the cattle dogs are the worst. She said she doesn't like to deal with them, but normally, other breeds aren't much of a problem.
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Old 08-31-2004, 06:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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And how would you feel if Rottie got banned from where you live? .
I would pay for the special license to own her - I would show that my animals are neutered & vet certified to her disposition & I would show that I have taken her to puppy socialization & obedience classes. If she ever attacked anyone - I would take her to the vet myself and make sure her passing was with dignity in the arms of someone who loved her.

Most pitt owners don't do any of those things. Anyone can make a pitt bull all you need is a bitch in heat and any dog with some pit personality, and there you go - pit bull. How many dogs do we see in shelters that are pitt cross dogs - what red neck decided that it was worthwhile breeding these combos. Where are those responsible Pitt owners who cry foul? How many animals are out running about with Balls not brains attached?

I don't have a problem with the pitt but because everyone can breed the buggers in the back yard and there is no standard you get nothing concrete. By banning them, you can control the breeding of the animals working toward breeding an animal that is more reliable & trustworthy & the dogs that you pit owners tell us they can be.
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Old 08-31-2004, 07:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't agree with banning a breed, its the breeder/owner that should be banned. A dog is only what we humans make the animal, if we breed for toughness/meaness/aggression/ect this will come out in the puppies and will take many generations to correct. The pits today there are some lovely ones out there but you have to go to a good breeder who is breeding for soundness/temperment...That goes for all breeds of dogs. Toy breeds I think you are more likely to be bit from then a large breed, but you mostly only hear about the larger breeds because they do the most damage. Most lil dogs are nippy because people tend to cater to them, carry them around and if they growl or nip they just shush it away

Boston Terriers were originally bred for dogfighting as well, so there are many breeds that were bred for fighting big and little....

Yes cattle dogs are more nippy and people have to realize this before they buy a dog, so are gun dogs. Iam so tired of people complaining about their dogs and they themselves did not do their research to see what breed best suits their life style. Instead they go out and get a breed that catches their eye's and try to make that breed fit into their life style, so in that they are gonna have problems. People should do their research and see what breed will best suit them, and where they live. Cattle dogs were ment to work and herd so if they don't have animals to herd they will herd what is there and that ends up being their human family, they also nip at the heels of animals, why because that is what they were bred to do to get them moving, so if their human family is not herding then some nippying is going to get you going
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've been attacked by 2 rotties,& 1 pit bull. Do I hate the breeds? No! They are my favorite breed of dogs!

I got attacked by 1 rotti & the Pit @ the same time.....They both had Rabies! I had a series of shots to make sure that I hadn't caught rabies....The poor dogs had to be put down.I still have the scars in my stomach from the needles!

The other Rotti chased me from the bus stop.I wasn't running,it just ran up & started attacking my backpack.I placed the backpack between me & the dog.I eventually was able to get away from the dog & jump me 7 foot fence.....

Even after all of that I just love Rotties & Pits....They are some of the greatest dogs that I have ever owned...
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I think a ban breed would only be due to the capability of large damage and the history of bad ownership.
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Pitti_gurl - where do you live. Confirmed rabies in dogs. Please tell us as this is very very unusual.

As for banning the breed - is it a breed? or just a serious of misinformed, malignant breeding practices that go on today unchecked because we are afraid to ban the practice?

Does banning the breed mean the end of it? Or just better control over it? I go with the later. The breed is in danger now of breeding itself into oblivion contaminating the shelters with part-pitt anyway.

Where are the pure breed pittbulls? The ones we should be trying to protect not the backyard red neck breeder.

Who is it we should be protecting? By banning or restricting the breed, we should be putting them in the hands of people truly prepared to do what it takes to ensure their continued survival.

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not really unusual, we just had a case in cambridge ontario, canada, a result suspect of a tangle with wild animal/vermon. Can't wait till Zoee gets her shot.
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Pitti_gurl - back to the rabies ( I know off topic but so rare where I live). These were strays? or just owned by someone who didn't bother to get their shots? How seriously were you attacked? Mauled or nipped?
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