"Search for the First Dog"

Raised By Wolves · 01-13-2006, 07:16 PM

This is a program I've seen before, and found very interesting.

It's currently being shown on the National Geographic channel. I don't know if or when it will be available on-demand, but it's on later tonight if anyone's interested.

D.Schäferhund · 01-13-2006, 07:24 PM

Thought it was interesting , but nothing really new.
But it was nice done, wish there would be a follow up if they found the singing dogs, that made me quite interested.
I really liked that they came out and said that the wolves did the first step to "get domesticated".

***Carrie*** · 01-13-2006, 07:24 PM

Oooo I bet it's interesting. When is it on? I'm about to go out for dinner with my bf, niece, her bf, her sister (my other niece)...duh... and her hubby who are visiting from Seattle. I hope I get back and can look for that program. I love stuff like that. Thanks for telling us about it.

Raised By Wolves · 01-13-2006, 07:38 PM

It's on again at 11:00pm here. They even had a quick shot of Catahoulas at the end of the program...just like my Tia!

Lots of good shows on NG channel tonight! There's one called "Insect Wars" on right now, and then one called "Spiders of the Dark" on after that.

I love bug shows! Anything on nature...count me in!

carolina dog · 01-26-2006, 01:45 PM

Dont forget the Carolina Dogs
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._firstdog.html

carolina dog · 01-26-2006, 02:03 PM

Raised,
I put on another post that we have been reading about the Catahoula for about a year now. Just the name of the dog cracks me up. We were looking for Carolina dogs from Petfinder right after Katrina and I also suggested we look for a Catahoula. The markings of a Catahoula are like no other dog Ive seen. We actually found quite a few Carolinas and Catahoulas on Petfinder as rescued dogs. We did not act on it.
I would like to see a picture but am really interested in their personality. We are fascinated by this dog as you can guess.

Raised By Wolves · 01-26-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by carolina dog

Raised,
I put on another post that we have been reading about the Catahoula for about a year now. Just the name of the dog cracks me up...I would like to see a picture but am really interested in their personality. We are fascinated by this dog as you can guess.

My Tia is pictured in my avatar. I don't even know if she's a purebred. But, the description of her personality, is exactly that of a Catahoula. She has a partial "glass eye", and all of the correct markings, although she is pretty "white".

They ARE a very "cat-like" dog. You should see Tia walk and climb the logs at the beach! I am very "sold" on this breed...I want another one!

carolina dog · 01-26-2006, 06:11 PM

are they related to the Australian Shepherd or does Dalmation play any part in the breed?

Raised By Wolves · 01-26-2006, 06:32 PM

It's interesting you should mention the Australian Shepherd. The markings remind me very much of this breed. The same beautiful patterns in the coat. Although, the Catahoula is a short, single-coated dog.

They are often mistaken for Dalmations, if the coat is too white. But I've never seen big, Dalmation sized spots, on a Catahoula.

If you do a net search of "Catahoula Leopard Dog", there are a few sights with pictures, breed specifics, and background of the breed.

The Carolina's are an interesting breed, too. I like the pariah, and primative breeds.

carolina dog · 01-26-2006, 07:47 PM

I do too I have three friendly dogds in my house but I am afraid when company comes and put them in a crate .There are certain "instinctive " things that they do that makes me a little leary to let strangers into their territory. Its hard to explain but with the exception of "Foxy" I have thought a number of times"if I push this play any further I am going to get bit "big time".

Raised By Wolves · 01-26-2006, 08:10 PM

Territory is a BIG DEAL to the primative breeds.

After a "Somebody's here!" bark, Tia knows to stay behind me, (unless I give the friendly greeting of "Hellooooo There!"- You have to sound a little like Barbra Woodhouse, Julia Child, or Mrs. Doubtfire).

Sometimes we join up and walk with another dog and owner, and save playtime for later.

Tia responds well to strong leadership. She will out-think you, if you don't keep on your toes and vary the routine, though!

Have you ever seen a Tibetan Mastiff up close? I love these dogs, too. Tia has a large male TM, named Yoghi, who is one of her best buddies. He is also quite a guardian.

carolina dog · 01-26-2006, 08:25 PM

Oh yeah , I read about the Glass eye on a website. What does that mean?

also does he show signs of his original purpose of herding finding cattle.

also (this is a strange question) can you "see" subtle primitive traits in the dog.

***Carrie*** · 01-27-2006, 12:31 AM

I got the pleasure of meeting Tia, along with RBWs on a few occasions. We had a northwest GP shindig with our dogs. It was a blast. I loved Tia. She is pretty and gentle. I noticed that she was very cautious. Now, RBW had explained that prior to her being rescued and rehabilitated by RBW, she had been abused. However, it was explained that this caution she displayed was part of the breed as well. It wasn't like she was afraid, if I moved suddenly or too close. She didn't exactly have that look. But she would scoot quickly to the side and was very watchful, without having a cowering look or too nervous of a look. She had a fun playing with my Doberman and Chihuahuas and Barrett's Doxies. They all got along and were so good. You can see more pictures of Tia and all the dogs in my gallery. You should check it all out. There are pages and pages with lots of pictures from our get togethers.

Raised By Wolves · 01-27-2006, 10:02 AM

Yes, I'm eagerly looking forward to our next get together, too! Tia misses her boyfriend, Lyric! I'm missing my galfriends!

Yes, she is wary, but really trusts me and keeps a grip on herself, even when startled. One of the Catahoula websites mentioned their territoriality and cautioned not to take their wary behavior, for fear.

Well, Tia came to me wary AND fearful. It was a bit tricky separating the two at first, but we figured it out. She is so good with other dogs now, too. But was a little aggressive when I first got her. I've had her a year and a half, and she is now two and a half.

The Tibetan Mastiff I work with, is also a primative breed. He uses his "smarts" in a different way from Tia, though. She is a high energy, always thinking it out, type of dog. Yoghi, doesn't waste any energy on futile efforts. But, he's always watching and you don't have to show him something very many times, before he gets it.

I'm interested in hearing more about the Carolinas!

carolina dog · 01-27-2006, 07:37 PM

If you can imagine 2 dogs in a clothes drier(in this case Bella and Cindy) this is what my back yard looks like with these two. Foxy seeks favor with humans but the other two are 100% ruff and tumble. Bella is food drven and just sticks around for the next treat. Cindy lou is not and can care less about treats. She is squirrel driven. All three dogs eat raspberries from our raspberry bushes. And rabbit poop .....well what can say. they know about Hawks and are very wary when one drifts by. Bella will not commit herself to a human. There is always a barrier, she is not a lap dog and will let you pet her but will not snuggle. She will sit at your feet wherever you go and thats the best she can do. Yet she is probably the most trainable(sit,stay etc)

01-13-2006, 07:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Raised By Wolves Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,523 Rep Power: 128	"Search for the First Dog" This is a program I've seen before, and found very interesting. It's currently being shown on the National Geographic channel. I don't know if or when it will be available on-demand, but it's on later tonight if anyone's interested.
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01-13-2006, 07:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,434 Rep Power: 287	Oooo I bet it's interesting. When is it on? I'm about to go out for dinner with my bf, niece, her bf, her sister (my other niece)...duh... and her hubby who are visiting from Seattle. I hope I get back and can look for that program. I love stuff like that. Thanks for telling us about it.
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01-13-2006, 07:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Raised By Wolves Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,523 Rep Power: 128	It's on again at 11:00pm here. They even had a quick shot of Catahoulas at the end of the program...just like my Tia! Lots of good shows on NG channel tonight! There's one called "Insect Wars" on right now, and then one called "Spiders of the Dark" on after that. I love bug shows! Anything on nature...count me in!
	__________________ "There's a fine line between fishing, and just standing on the bank, looking confused."

01-26-2006, 01:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Dont forget the Carolina Dogs http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._firstdog.html
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01-26-2006, 02:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Raised, I put on another post that we have been reading about the Catahoula for about a year now. Just the name of the dog cracks me up. We were looking for Carolina dogs from Petfinder right after Katrina and I also suggested we look for a Catahoula. The markings of a Catahoula are like no other dog Ive seen. We actually found quite a few Carolinas and Catahoulas on Petfinder as rescued dogs. We did not act on it. I would like to see a picture but am really interested in their personality. We are fascinated by this dog as you can guess.
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01-13-2006, 07:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
D.Schäferhund let's work Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,801 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 114	Thought it was interesting , but nothing really new. But it was nice done, wish there would be a follow up if they found the singing dogs, that made me quite interested. I really liked that they came out and said that the wolves did the first step to "get domesticated".

01-26-2006, 06:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	are they related to the Australian Shepherd or does Dalmation play any part in the breed?
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0

01-26-2006, 06:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Raised By Wolves Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,523 Rep Power: 128	It's interesting you should mention the Australian Shepherd. The markings remind me very much of this breed. The same beautiful patterns in the coat. Although, the Catahoula is a short, single-coated dog. They are often mistaken for Dalmations, if the coat is too white. But I've never seen big, Dalmation sized spots, on a Catahoula. If you do a net search of "Catahoula Leopard Dog", there are a few sights with pictures, breed specifics, and background of the breed. The Carolina's are an interesting breed, too. I like the pariah, and primative breeds.
	__________________ "There's a fine line between fishing, and just standing on the bank, looking confused."

01-26-2006, 07:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I do too I have three friendly dogds in my house but I am afraid when company comes and put them in a crate .There are certain "instinctive " things that they do that makes me a little leary to let strangers into their territory. Its hard to explain but with the exception of "Foxy" I have thought a number of times"if I push this play any further I am going to get bit "big time".
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0

01-26-2006, 08:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
Raised By Wolves Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,523 Rep Power: 128	Territory is a BIG DEAL to the primative breeds. After a "Somebody's here!" bark, Tia knows to stay behind me, (unless I give the friendly greeting of "Hellooooo There!"- You have to sound a little like Barbra Woodhouse, Julia Child, or Mrs. Doubtfire). Sometimes we join up and walk with another dog and owner, and save playtime for later. Tia responds well to strong leadership. She will out-think you, if you don't keep on your toes and vary the routine, though! Have you ever seen a Tibetan Mastiff up close? I love these dogs, too. Tia has a large male TM, named Yoghi, who is one of her best buddies. He is also quite a guardian.
	__________________ "There's a fine line between fishing, and just standing on the bank, looking confused."

01-26-2006, 08:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Oh yeah , I read about the Glass eye on a website. What does that mean? also does he show signs of his original purpose of herding finding cattle. also (this is a strange question) can you "see" subtle primitive traits in the dog.
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0

01-27-2006, 12:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,434 Rep Power: 287	I got the pleasure of meeting Tia, along with RBWs on a few occasions. We had a northwest GP shindig with our dogs. It was a blast. I loved Tia. She is pretty and gentle. I noticed that she was very cautious. Now, RBW had explained that prior to her being rescued and rehabilitated by RBW, she had been abused. However, it was explained that this caution she displayed was part of the breed as well. It wasn't like she was afraid, if I moved suddenly or too close. She didn't exactly have that look. But she would scoot quickly to the side and was very watchful, without having a cowering look or too nervous of a look. She had a fun playing with my Doberman and Chihuahuas and Barrett's Doxies. They all got along and were so good. You can see more pictures of Tia and all the dogs in my gallery. You should check it all out. There are pages and pages with lots of pictures from our get togethers.
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01-27-2006, 10:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
Raised By Wolves Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,523 Rep Power: 128	Yes, I'm eagerly looking forward to our next get together, too! Tia misses her boyfriend, Lyric! I'm missing my galfriends! Yes, she is wary, but really trusts me and keeps a grip on herself, even when startled. One of the Catahoula websites mentioned their territoriality and cautioned not to take their wary behavior, for fear. Well, Tia came to me wary AND fearful. It was a bit tricky separating the two at first, but we figured it out. She is so good with other dogs now, too. But was a little aggressive when I first got her. I've had her a year and a half, and she is now two and a half. The Tibetan Mastiff I work with, is also a primative breed. He uses his "smarts" in a different way from Tia, though. She is a high energy, always thinking it out, type of dog. Yoghi, doesn't waste any energy on futile efforts. But, he's always watching and you don't have to show him something very many times, before he gets it. I'm interested in hearing more about the Carolinas!
	__________________ "There's a fine line between fishing, and just standing on the bank, looking confused."

01-27-2006, 07:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
carolina dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	If you can imagine 2 dogs in a clothes drier(in this case Bella and Cindy) this is what my back yard looks like with these two. Foxy seeks favor with humans but the other two are 100% ruff and tumble. Bella is food drven and just sticks around for the next treat. Cindy lou is not and can care less about treats. She is squirrel driven. All three dogs eat raspberries from our raspberry bushes. And rabbit poop .....well what can say. they know about Hawks and are very wary when one drifts by. Bella will not commit herself to a human. There is always a barrier, she is not a lap dog and will let you pet her but will not snuggle. She will sit at your feet wherever you go and thats the best she can do. Yet she is probably the most trainable(sit,stay etc)
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