vote NO to media poll on pit bull bans

logo · 07-19-2005, 11:05 AM

http://www.katu.com/news/news_poll_pit_bulls.asp

78% / 22%... are this many ppl that ignorant? grrr

*votes no*

richnrissa · 07-19-2005, 11:08 AM

Votes NO
still 78%/22%

and yes, logo, *sigh* they are that stupid

mulroony · 07-19-2005, 11:10 AM

Yes, yes they are. I bet they don't even know what "pit bulls" are or think they are the only owned by rappers and people in gangs...

logo · 07-19-2005, 11:19 AM

this poll isnt exactly "accurate" or "well-presented" so who really knows... just shocking to see those kinds of numbers in favor of bans.

mulroony · 07-19-2005, 11:27 AM

With the way the media has been portraying "pit bulls" and the almost 100% negative image they are getting these numbers do not surprise me at all. So many people I know see Jackson's temperment as the exception to pit bulls not the standard. If dateline or 20/20 or one of those other useless one sided news shows had one story about a pit bull that works as a therapy dog, or that saved it's family's life I bet we would see a huge surge in the "no" category.

What really gets me is a neighbor who has some sort of APBT mix. I do not know any of the history of this dog, but from what I have seen it is dog aggressive, and a little human aggressive. Now why you would keep this dog in a subdivision filled with kids is beyond me. They don't even have a fence, and I really hope they don't consider a cable tie enough to restrain the dog...

When people like this put poentially dangerous dogs in situations where they can do damage is why they are even considering a ban. I plan to rescue a few APBT mixs in my time, but never would I allow a dog that shows such aggression even the most remote chance to do damage.

richnrissa · 07-19-2005, 11:30 AM

your right mulroony, lets not forget the "average" americans only information or exposure to a pit bull is what they see/hear on TV.
Theyve consistently portrayed the pit bull as an animal that is incapable of anything but aggression.

and by threads here, most people dont even know what a pit bull is, because every small dog on this board seems to have been mistaken for one at least once!!!

bigdoglover · 07-19-2005, 01:59 PM

Just voted NO....77/23

Novel · 07-19-2005, 05:37 PM

After 20146 votes it is down to

74% yes
26% no

We're making a difference guys!! Can we vote more than once... People are so gullible that if we can change the results... people will start thinking, oh, yes, we don't need to ban them.... and maybe the news agency would actually do a story covering the facts, instead of presenting a media bias.. oh yeah, I forgot, I'm awake, not dreaming...

clraymond · 07-19-2005, 05:50 PM

I just voted a couple times in a row.... it's still 74/26

richnrissa · 07-19-2005, 06:18 PM

I received notice of your pit bull ban poll.
I would like to just communicate that i think a poll such as this, and most likely the types of news stories you report on pit bulls are irresponsible.
The breed of animal is NOT the problem. It is the people who OWN them irresponsibly and the medias insistence on portraying this animal ONLY in an aggresive and violent manner.
Constant stories about only negative aspects of the breed only further its reputation as a "mean" dog, a "fighting" dog, thereby INCREASING its popularity for the unseemly owners who use this type of dog for fighting, etc.
Pit bulls, are smart, highly active, extremely trainable animals. They are not evil, aggresive beings whose sole purpose is to hurt other animals or people.
I would encourage you to consider running stories of a POSITIVE nature on pit bulls, or support legislative means, OTHER THAN AN OUTRIGHT BAN, to further educated the public about this breed.
Many things have been banned in this country, now and in the past---how well did that STOP the negative issue? Prohibition was real successful, huh?
Banning this breed will only punish the responsible, educated pit bull owners and give more credence to the underground faction by increasing this breeds "evil reputation".
Punish the DEED, not the BREED.

Email sent to station management.

Novel · 07-19-2005, 06:26 PM

Absolutely Excellent!!! WOW. I am in shock of how well that was put together. Very moving! I will give you points for it as soon as I spread some of the wealth around...

logo · 07-19-2005, 07:10 PM

73/27

... great response richnrissa!

wardog1 · 07-19-2005, 09:53 PM

Let me just add it is not enough to just vote no on the ban. We need to vote the people passing these bans out of office. And we need to call people to the carpet who are trying to get these bans passed. It is time to take a stand.

richnrissa · 07-19-2005, 10:12 PM

Novel said "WOW. I am in shock of how well that was put together"

I'll take that as a compliment, lol

Novel · 07-19-2005, 10:44 PM

LOL! It was meant as nothing but a compliment. I wondered at my choice of words and then said "the heck with it, she'll know what I mean." I apologize if what I said sounded stupid. You have my admiration for being able to coalesce your thoughs so succintly and coherently! Perhaps that's what I should have said....

07-19-2005, 11:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
logo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 66	vote NO to media poll on pit bull bans http://www.katu.com/news/news_poll_pit_bulls.asp 78% / 22%... are this many ppl that ignorant? grrr votes no
logo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 66

07-19-2005, 11:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
richnrissa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WA Posts: 862 Rep Power: 84	Votes NO still 78%/22% and yes, logo, sigh they are that stupid
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07-19-2005, 11:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
mulroony Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,100 Rep Power: 119	Yes, yes they are. I bet they don't even know what "pit bulls" are or think they are the only owned by rappers and people in gangs...
	__________________ Shelby (CGC), Jackson, Max, & Mackenzie (CGC) - My pups :) Pit Bull "Problem" Movie (Graphic)

07-19-2005, 11:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
logo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 66	this poll isnt exactly "accurate" or "well-presented" so who really knows... just shocking to see those kinds of numbers in favor of bans.
logo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 66

07-19-2005, 11:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
mulroony Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,100 Rep Power: 119	With the way the media has been portraying "pit bulls" and the almost 100% negative image they are getting these numbers do not surprise me at all. So many people I know see Jackson's temperment as the exception to pit bulls not the standard. If dateline or 20/20 or one of those other useless one sided news shows had one story about a pit bull that works as a therapy dog, or that saved it's family's life I bet we would see a huge surge in the "no" category. What really gets me is a neighbor who has some sort of APBT mix. I do not know any of the history of this dog, but from what I have seen it is dog aggressive, and a little human aggressive. Now why you would keep this dog in a subdivision filled with kids is beyond me. They don't even have a fence, and I really hope they don't consider a cable tie enough to restrain the dog... When people like this put poentially dangerous dogs in situations where they can do damage is why they are even considering a ban. I plan to rescue a few APBT mixs in my time, but never would I allow a dog that shows such aggression even the most remote chance to do damage.
	__________________ Shelby (CGC), Jackson, Max, & Mackenzie (CGC) - My pups :) Pit Bull "Problem" Movie (Graphic) Last edited by mulroony : 07-19-2005 at 11:33 AM.

07-19-2005, 11:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
richnrissa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WA Posts: 862 Rep Power: 84	your right mulroony, lets not forget the "average" americans only information or exposure to a pit bull is what they see/hear on TV. Theyve consistently portrayed the pit bull as an animal that is incapable of anything but aggression. and by threads here, most people dont even know what a pit bull is, because every small dog on this board seems to have been mistaken for one at least once!!!
	__________________ If you cannot be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning- Catherine Aird

07-19-2005, 01:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigdoglover Giant Schnauzers Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West-Central Illinois Posts: 3,624 Rep Power: 177	Just voted NO....77/23

07-19-2005, 05:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,977 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	After 20146 votes it is down to 74% yes 26% no We're making a difference guys!! Can we vote more than once... People are so gullible that if we can change the results... people will start thinking, oh, yes, we don't need to ban them.... and maybe the news agency would actually do a story covering the facts, instead of presenting a media bias.. oh yeah, I forgot, I'm awake, not dreaming...
	__________________ ~~~My Blog~~~

07-19-2005, 05:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
clraymond Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 264 Rep Power: 71	I just voted a couple times in a row.... it's still 74/26
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07-19-2005, 06:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
richnrissa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WA Posts: 862 Rep Power: 84	I received notice of your pit bull ban poll. I would like to just communicate that i think a poll such as this, and most likely the types of news stories you report on pit bulls are irresponsible. The breed of animal is NOT the problem. It is the people who OWN them irresponsibly and the medias insistence on portraying this animal ONLY in an aggresive and violent manner. Constant stories about only negative aspects of the breed only further its reputation as a "mean" dog, a "fighting" dog, thereby INCREASING its popularity for the unseemly owners who use this type of dog for fighting, etc. Pit bulls, are smart, highly active, extremely trainable animals. They are not evil, aggresive beings whose sole purpose is to hurt other animals or people. I would encourage you to consider running stories of a POSITIVE nature on pit bulls, or support legislative means, OTHER THAN AN OUTRIGHT BAN, to further educated the public about this breed. Many things have been banned in this country, now and in the past---how well did that STOP the negative issue? Prohibition was real successful, huh? Banning this breed will only punish the responsible, educated pit bull owners and give more credence to the underground faction by increasing this breeds "evil reputation". Punish the DEED, not the BREED. Email sent to station management.
	__________________ If you cannot be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning- Catherine Aird

07-19-2005, 06:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,977 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	Absolutely Excellent!!! WOW. I am in shock of how well that was put together. Very moving! I will give you points for it as soon as I spread some of the wealth around...
	__________________ ~~~My Blog~~~

07-19-2005, 07:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
logo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 66	73/27 ... great response richnrissa!
logo Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 66

07-19-2005, 09:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
wardog1 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 115 Rep Power: 0	Let me just add it is not enough to just vote no on the ban. We need to vote the people passing these bans out of office. And we need to call people to the carpet who are trying to get these bans passed. It is time to take a stand.
wardog1 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 115 Rep Power: 0

07-19-2005, 10:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
richnrissa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WA Posts: 862 Rep Power: 84	Novel said "WOW. I am in shock of how well that was put together" I'll take that as a compliment, lol
	__________________ If you cannot be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning- Catherine Aird

07-19-2005, 10:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,977 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	LOL! It was meant as nothing but a compliment. I wondered at my choice of words and then said "the heck with it, she'll know what I mean." I apologize if what I said sounded stupid. You have my admiration for being able to coalesce your thoughs so succintly and coherently! Perhaps that's what I should have said....
	__________________ ~~~My Blog~~~

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