Handler leaves dog on table, dog hangs self...

Mom2Many · 08-05-2005, 02:07 PM

Please sign this petition as it is very important! We all know what it's
like for a dog to completely disappear but apparently this retriever was
ill taken care of and is dead not missing. These handlers need to be
made to face up to what they did and hopefully they won't be showing
anymore!!

I wanted to check this out and be sure that it was an actual case and,
sadly, it appears that it is. The owners have a website at
http://www.jagcomehome.com and it details their search for their dog and
ultimately for information about their dog's death. They recently
(7/25/05) filed suit against the handlers.
--- Begin forwarded message:
Recently in the Golden Retriever community two top professional handlers
left a beautiful Show Dog Hall of Fame Golden Retriever unattended on a
grooming table with a grooming noose around his neck, and went to show
other dogs. Jag fell off the table and hung himself. If that were not
horrible enough these well know handlers lied to the dog's owners and
said the dog ran away after being frightened by a loud truck. The owners
flew from California to Kansas and searched for weeks. The story made
all the news programs. Every vet was alerted. The search became
nationwide with a huge reward. Now 2 months later 2 witnesses have come
forth to tell what really happened to this beautiful boy.They had seen
one of the flyers when the owners believed he was just lost. Th e owners
have now initiated a substantial lawsuit against these handlers.
Hopefully they will be banned from AKC competition. At the very least
they should be put out of business. Let not Jag's death be in vain.
please sign this petition to the AKC to make it a fineable offense to
leave a dog unattended on a grooming table at dog shows. Let not Jag's
life be in vain. Thank you Please go to
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/jag and sign your name and forward
this to any other lists, dog clubs or people you know. There is a
signature goal of 250,000 but I'm pretty sure we, as dog lovers, can get
easily more than that.

rmci · 08-05-2005, 02:18 PM

How horrible!!

kerriebeth21 · 08-06-2005, 07:11 AM

The stupid thing is, it was an accident! Yes caused by a very stupid mistake...but still an accident. The bad part about this is that they LIED. I think they should have to pay for the dog and all the time and energy people put into searching for the dog. It would have been better to fess up!

This happened to a girl in my 4H club was I was in high school. She had the table set up in her yard, went in the house to get a brush...when she came back he was already dead. It was terrible!! I think that the nooses on grooming tables to be "break away" if a certain amount of pressure it put in it. It's only smart as a safety procaution for such a thing to be mandatory on all grooming tables! Accidents happen!!!

Odetoadream · 08-06-2005, 10:24 PM

Quote:

I think that the nooses on grooming tables to be "break away" if a certain amount of pressure it put in it. It's only smart as a safety procaution for such a thing to be mandatory on all grooming tables! Accidents happen!!!

You can get a 'break away' clasp for under 6-10 bucks that connects the noose to the arm. If the dog jumps/falls it releases. People just need to look and spend the extra money.

I show, I don't use a arm at home, and at a show I do and he's watched. I'll even watch other dogs near me. I've seen people leave their dogs on the tables it's upsetting.

It's not the table manufactures responsibility. They clearly state not to do it, as it can kill a dog. It's not their fault the handler left the dog or didn't spend the extra money for break aways. They shouldn't be responsible for others stupidity.

Sincerely,
Cinthia

Elvish Legion · 08-06-2005, 10:41 PM

Thats just sick, top handlers? If they are so good why are they dumb enough to leave a dog on a table?

kerriebeth21 · 08-07-2005, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odetoadream

It's not the table manufactures responsibility. They clearly state not to do it, as it can kill a dog. It's not their fault the handler left the dog or didn't spend the extra money for break aways. They shouldn't be responsible for others stupidity.

Yes but it is law to wear a seat belt in your car for safety reasons! I think it should be mandatory for tables to have "break away" features. Such a change could save dogs lives!

Odetoadream · 08-07-2005, 10:20 PM

Just because there's a law saying you must wear a seat belt doesn't mean everyone obeys it.

My point is, if used -properly- IE: not leaving the dog unattended, grooming tables are -safe-. If you want added security, buy the clip which is already out there on the market and is easily purchased.

I just don't agree with holding the manufactures at fault for something someone did that was clearly wrong. Even IF they add the clip, doesn't mean people will use it. It all depends on the -person- and if they choose to do things safely or take risks.

Most likely these handlers did this many times with various other dogs as well as the one that died. Nine times out of ten he was fine, but it only took one time for there to be a problem. I've seen groomers and handlers do it many times. My first show I set up my table near a bunch of terriers. The groomer just bathed them and had two on a table with fans on them to dry them and then went to go watch a friend in the ring.

There does need to be change, the petition is likely going to get through and be more of a sucess, then for the manufacturers to add a 6 dollar clip to the box, which won't be used. However, my concern is, false reports, due to people seeing noone at a grooming table and assuming the dogs been left when actually the person grooming next to it is watching the dog on the table as well. Often handlers have multiple dogs on tables at a time, and are often set up near friends who all watch each others dogs.

Sincerely,
Cinthia

kerriebeth21 · 08-08-2005, 04:43 AM

I didn't say manufactor's should be held at fault.

dalfriend · 08-08-2005, 11:01 AM

Accident or not it was negligence. The owners TRUSTED these people to take good care of their dog. Show dogs should be put in crates if they arent being watched and it makes it a million times worse that they lied to the owners about it. I mean come on like the dog is going to stand perfectly still on the table while the handlers are showing other dogs. And if they couldnt watch all of the dogs & had to have someone else watch the dog then they obviously shouldnt have taken on that many dogs.

I feel so bad for Jag & jag's owners. Hopefully they will get some sort of justice.

08-05-2005, 02:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mom2Many Owned by 1 GSD & 1 APBT Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Untangling Gunnar's Leash Posts: 873 Rep Power: 92	Handler leaves dog on table, dog hangs self... Please sign this petition as it is very important! We all know what it's like for a dog to completely disappear but apparently this retriever was ill taken care of and is dead not missing. These handlers need to be made to face up to what they did and hopefully they won't be showing anymore!! I wanted to check this out and be sure that it was an actual case and, sadly, it appears that it is. The owners have a website at http://www.jagcomehome.com and it details their search for their dog and ultimately for information about their dog's death. They recently (7/25/05) filed suit against the handlers. --- Begin forwarded message: Recently in the Golden Retriever community two top professional handlers left a beautiful Show Dog Hall of Fame Golden Retriever unattended on a grooming table with a grooming noose around his neck, and went to show other dogs. Jag fell off the table and hung himself. If that were not horrible enough these well know handlers lied to the dog's owners and said the dog ran away after being frightened by a loud truck. The owners flew from California to Kansas and searched for weeks. The story made all the news programs. Every vet was alerted. The search became nationwide with a huge reward. Now 2 months later 2 witnesses have come forth to tell what really happened to this beautiful boy.They had seen one of the flyers when the owners believed he was just lost. Th e owners have now initiated a substantial lawsuit against these handlers. Hopefully they will be banned from AKC competition. At the very least they should be put out of business. Let not Jag's death be in vain. please sign this petition to the AKC to make it a fineable offense to leave a dog unattended on a grooming table at dog shows. Let not Jag's life be in vain. Thank you Please go to http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/jag and sign your name and forward this to any other lists, dog clubs or people you know. There is a signature goal of 250,000 but I'm pretty sure we, as dog lovers, can get easily more than that.
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08-06-2005, 07:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
kerriebeth21 New Ridgeback Mom! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 422 Rep Power: 86	The stupid thing is, it was an accident! Yes caused by a very stupid mistake...but still an accident. The bad part about this is that they LIED. I think they should have to pay for the dog and all the time and energy people put into searching for the dog. It would have been better to fess up! This happened to a girl in my 4H club was I was in high school. She had the table set up in her yard, went in the house to get a brush...when she came back he was already dead. It was terrible!! I think that the nooses on grooming tables to be "break away" if a certain amount of pressure it put in it. It's only smart as a safety procaution for such a thing to be mandatory on all grooming tables! Accidents happen!!!
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08-08-2005, 04:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
kerriebeth21 New Ridgeback Mom! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 422 Rep Power: 86	I didn't say manufactor's should be held at fault.
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Odetoadream Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Southern, Ohio Posts: 98 Rep Power: 73	Just because there's a law saying you must wear a seat belt doesn't mean everyone obeys it. My point is, if used -properly- IE: not leaving the dog unattended, grooming tables are -safe-. If you want added security, buy the clip which is already out there on the market and is easily purchased. I just don't agree with holding the manufactures at fault for something someone did that was clearly wrong. Even IF they add the clip, doesn't mean people will use it. It all depends on the -person- and if they choose to do things safely or take risks. Most likely these handlers did this many times with various other dogs as well as the one that died. Nine times out of ten he was fine, but it only took one time for there to be a problem. I've seen groomers and handlers do it many times. My first show I set up my table near a bunch of terriers. The groomer just bathed them and had two on a table with fans on them to dry them and then went to go watch a friend in the ring. There does need to be change, the petition is likely going to get through and be more of a sucess, then for the manufacturers to add a 6 dollar clip to the box, which won't be used. However, my concern is, false reports, due to people seeing noone at a grooming table and assuming the dogs been left when actually the person grooming next to it is watching the dog on the table as well. Often handlers have multiple dogs on tables at a time, and are often set up near friends who all watch each others dogs. Sincerely, Cinthia

08-08-2005, 11:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
dalfriend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Little Rock Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	Accident or not it was negligence. The owners TRUSTED these people to take good care of their dog. Show dogs should be put in crates if they arent being watched and it makes it a million times worse that they lied to the owners about it. I mean come on like the dog is going to stand perfectly still on the table while the handlers are showing other dogs. And if they couldnt watch all of the dogs & had to have someone else watch the dog then they obviously shouldnt have taken on that many dogs. I feel so bad for Jag & jag's owners. Hopefully they will get some sort of justice.

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