People make me sick!

pittiegurl · 08-30-2004, 07:59 PM

Arrrrrgh! Why don't people understand that breeding is not just fun & games?
Why don't they understand that breeding IS NOT to be tampered with by the amatuer(sp?) dog person?
Here's what I'm talking about!
APBT breeders in it for JUST the MONEY!

PitBullie09 · 08-30-2004, 08:07 PM

What was wrong with it? I know there were ALOT of puppies. But other than that i didnt see nothing. Maybe I missed something
erin

pittiegurl · 08-30-2004, 08:11 PM

Overbred female!

2 solid blue female Pit Bulls,
4 weeks old.
They are already selling those 2 female pittie pups! They are only 4 WEEKS old!!!!!!!!

pittiegurl · 08-30-2004, 08:16 PM

Also,Their females are 2 yrs or younger....
TOOOO young to breed! They haven't had any tests done or proven themselves good working dogs.....

These people are in it for the money.Why do you think there are so many puppies?

PitBullie09 · 08-30-2004, 08:22 PM

Oh I didnt really read it sorry. Looking at the pictures. I dont even know what to do about it . Well there really isnt nothing WE CAN do about it. Its their dogs to breed and we have no say and it sucks really bad.

pittiegurl · 08-30-2004, 08:24 PM

Actually you can do something about it....Contact ASPCA,PBRC,HUA(hearts united for animals) tell them the situation.
They will look into it & determine what to do about the situation.

Smooshie · 08-31-2004, 08:48 AM

If you look a little further, they are also breeding white Dobies

PitBullie09 · 08-31-2004, 08:54 AM

Yea i saw that. I was like a white doberman? hmmm.

Smooshie · 08-31-2004, 09:02 AM

yeah...to the best of my knowledge (Dobe people please correct me if I am wrong) this is a genetic defect in the breed and is of course against breed standard. It shouldn't happen if the breeding program is solid. Don't get me wrong...I don't think white puppies that occur naturally should be euthanized, but they certainly should go with a spay/neuter contract, and should NEVER be bred!!!
I've seen them in pet stores being sold as "rare", for thousands of dollars....sick!

These people are breeding specifically for white Dobes

fireworksinjuly · 08-31-2004, 09:51 AM

I have to agree with you there....and must add that while I LOVE Dobermans, the white ones look kinda stupid...it just doesnt look like a Dobe should.

I also have personal oppinions on something else regarding that but they arnt oppinions that I need to state here.

PitBullie09 · 08-31-2004, 10:12 AM

Yea the white ones are alot. I havent ever really wanted one but a friend of mine did and couldnt find one for a reasonable price so she got s wgsd instead.

dollface · 08-31-2004, 06:55 PM

For one how can you tell from a pic that the bitch is overbred? If they are breeding on 3rd heat or 2 years old then that age is right. Correct me if Iam wrong but I did not read anything to state they are breeding a female before her 3rd heat or two years old?

They did state about doing tests and guarentee to be free from certain genetics Bilateral and hip dysplasia 2 year health guarentee as well....

White dobes are very pretty I think but they are a defect and should not be bred from. They have a high chance of being deaf among other things in their gene's.

Just because puppies are stated for sale at a certain age does not mean they are selling them right now, they could be taking deposits for the puppies. They also show 3 day old puppies obviously they are not sending them to a knew home right away.

Me personally I would not cut down a breeders website unless you personally have dealt with them and have facts that they are only in if for the money.

Rip's Girl · 08-31-2004, 11:13 PM

How do you know that those females didn't just have a litter, thus looking overbred?

White Dobermans.. ARG! Everyone wants to tweak the breed. White GSD's, White Dobe's, White Aussies...

milo · 09-01-2004, 02:42 PM

ARRR i see that, it make's me sick that peole can really do that i really feel sorry for the dog's what have to go through it!!!It make me mad to see tha

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dollface · 09-01-2004, 06:26 PM

The whites are gorgous in dobes, boxers ect but I don't understand why people would want to continue with this gene/color do to the health problems that may plague them, feel very sorry for the animal to have to go thro its life because of people's ignorance

I understand if you have a litter and end up with a white one then don't continue breeding from that line, I would make sure that pup and any potential carriers of the white gene are fixed

Some people I just don't understand they are suppose to be bettering the breed not plagueing it with faults and health problems

08-30-2004, 07:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
pittiegurl Pit Bull/Catahoula mix Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over the Rainbow...somewhere! Posts: 320 Rep Power: 87	People make me sick! Arrrrrgh! Why don't people understand that breeding is not just fun & games? Why don't they understand that breeding IS NOT to be tampered with by the amatuer(sp?) dog person? Here's what I'm talking about! APBT breeders in it for JUST the MONEY!
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08-30-2004, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
PitBullie09 ACD/Pit Bull Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,477 Rep Power: 132	What was wrong with it? I know there were ALOT of puppies. But other than that i didnt see nothing. Maybe I missed something erin
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08-30-2004, 08:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
pittiegurl Pit Bull/Catahoula mix Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over the Rainbow...somewhere! Posts: 320 Rep Power: 87	Overbred female! Overbred female! 2 solid blue female Pit Bulls, 4 weeks old. They are already selling those 2 female pittie pups! They are only 4 WEEKS old!!!!!!!!
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08-30-2004, 08:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
pittiegurl Pit Bull/Catahoula mix Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over the Rainbow...somewhere! Posts: 320 Rep Power: 87	Also,Their females are 2 yrs or younger.... TOOOO young to breed! They haven't had any tests done or proven themselves good working dogs..... These people are in it for the money.Why do you think there are so many puppies?
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08-30-2004, 08:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
PitBullie09 ACD/Pit Bull Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,477 Rep Power: 132	Oh I didnt really read it sorry. Looking at the pictures. I dont even know what to do about it . Well there really isnt nothing WE CAN do about it. Its their dogs to breed and we have no say and it sucks really bad.
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08-30-2004, 08:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
pittiegurl Pit Bull/Catahoula mix Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over the Rainbow...somewhere! Posts: 320 Rep Power: 87	Actually you can do something about it....Contact ASPCA,PBRC,HUA(hearts united for animals) tell them the situation. They will look into it & determine what to do about the situation.
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08-31-2004, 08:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
Smooshie and the Boxer bunch Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: the beach Posts: 101 Rep Power: 82	If you look a little further, they are also breeding white Dobies
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08-31-2004, 08:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
PitBullie09 ACD/Pit Bull Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,477 Rep Power: 132	Yea i saw that. I was like a white doberman? hmmm.
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08-31-2004, 09:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
Smooshie and the Boxer bunch Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: the beach Posts: 101 Rep Power: 82	yeah...to the best of my knowledge (Dobe people please correct me if I am wrong) this is a genetic defect in the breed and is of course against breed standard. It shouldn't happen if the breeding program is solid. Don't get me wrong...I don't think white puppies that occur naturally should be euthanized, but they certainly should go with a spay/neuter contract, and should NEVER be bred!!! I've seen them in pet stores being sold as "rare", for thousands of dollars....sick! These people are breeding specifically for white Dobes
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08-31-2004, 09:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
fireworksinjuly Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,585 Rep Power: 144	I have to agree with you there....and must add that while I LOVE Dobermans, the white ones look kinda stupid...it just doesnt look like a Dobe should. I also have personal oppinions on something else regarding that but they arnt oppinions that I need to state here.
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08-31-2004, 10:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
PitBullie09 ACD/Pit Bull Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,477 Rep Power: 132	Yea the white ones are alot. I havent ever really wanted one but a friend of mine did and couldnt find one for a reasonable price so she got s wgsd instead.
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08-31-2004, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
dollface 4 Boston Terriers Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Saskatchewan Posts: 903 Rep Power: 103	For one how can you tell from a pic that the bitch is overbred? If they are breeding on 3rd heat or 2 years old then that age is right. Correct me if Iam wrong but I did not read anything to state they are breeding a female before her 3rd heat or two years old? They did state about doing tests and guarentee to be free from certain genetics Bilateral and hip dysplasia 2 year health guarentee as well.... White dobes are very pretty I think but they are a defect and should not be bred from. They have a high chance of being deaf among other things in their gene's. Just because puppies are stated for sale at a certain age does not mean they are selling them right now, they could be taking deposits for the puppies. They also show 3 day old puppies obviously they are not sending them to a knew home right away. Me personally I would not cut down a breeders website unless you personally have dealt with them and have facts that they are only in if for the money.
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08-31-2004, 11:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rip's Girl Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,580 Rep Power: 144	How do you know that those females didn't just have a litter, thus looking overbred? White Dobermans.. ARG! Everyone wants to tweak the breed. White GSD's, White Dobe's, White Aussies...
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09-01-2004, 02:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
milo Labrador lover!!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England, Portsmouth Posts: 858 Rep Power: 98	Arrrrrr that is so nasty ARRR i see that, it make's me sick that peole can really do that i really feel sorry for the dog's what have to go through it!!!It make me mad to see tha t!!
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09-01-2004, 06:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
dollface 4 Boston Terriers Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Saskatchewan Posts: 903 Rep Power: 103	The whites are gorgous in dobes, boxers ect but I don't understand why people would want to continue with this gene/color do to the health problems that may plague them, feel very sorry for the animal to have to go thro its life because of people's ignorance I understand if you have a litter and end up with a white one then don't continue breeding from that line, I would make sure that pup and any potential carriers of the white gene are fixed Some people I just don't understand they are suppose to be bettering the breed not plagueing it with faults and health problems
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