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Old 01-05-2006, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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CKC registers hybrids?

I've never noticed the CKC registered "designer mutts" until I was looking through the breeders of "Popular Mixed Breeds" on dogbreedinfo... is that true, or just some other marketing tactic? What other registries register these (if any)?
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Old 01-05-2006, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That would be the Continental Kennel Club not the Canadian Kennel Club. The Canadian Kennel Club is simular to the AKC but it's in Canada. The AKC and the CKC (Canadian) register all the same breeds (or most of them).
I'm not sure why the Continental KC exists or how it started, the only reason I can think of is to legitimize breeds & designer dogs that wouldn't able to be AKC or C(andian) KC registered.
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Old 01-05-2006, 09:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Some others to watch out for are:

ACA - "American Canine Association".
Advertises that over 3000 adult breeding canines are registered each week. Only registry endorsed by Petland.
**Caters to commercial breeders.** Refers puppy seekers to pet stores.

APR - "American Purebred Registry".
Will register unknown pedigree dogs/cats, does not sponsor any shows, no proof of purebred required.

APRI - "America's Pet Registry, inc.

Advertises free registration for commercial breeders. Non Profit "dedicated to the preservation of the professional pet industry", dogs and cats. Founded by retailers of pets (commercial breeders and resellers). You have no recourse as a buyer of a puppy bought thru them if the seller does not want you to know their phone number, etc.

ARU- "Animal Registry Unlimited.
Guarantees they will register your pets of unknown pedigree, encourages cross breeding. Special prices for bulk.

CKC - "Continental Kennel Club" ( do not confuse with Canadian Kennel Club! )
CKC will recognize a cross between any two purebred dogs, and will issue a registration certificate on their offspring. These crosses are not registered as purebred dogs but are registered as the offspring of purebred dogs. CKC accepts no responsibility for any inaccurate, false, or fraudulent information submitted on registration applications. They sponsor no shows or championships. They also give big fee breaks to large kennels registering lots of dogs ( such as "commercial breeding farms" - also known as "Puppy Mills" ). Will register dogs not registered with other recognized registries. "If other kennel club papers are not available, the dog owner must provide two witnesses who can verify the accuracy and truthfulness of the information listed on the application". [quote source]

CRCS - "Canine Registration and Certification Services".
Caters to commercial breeders. - CRCS has removed/lost their website presence. Two cached pages from Google search engine.

DRA - "Dog Registry of America".
No DNA certification, registers unregistered/unknown/mixed pedigree dogs, brags about added value for sellers and confidentiality. "Tired of registration & documentation hassles? Starting your own blood line? Lost or never had papers? Developing new breeds? Breed not recognized? DRA™ Registers all purebred dogs" [quote source]

FIC - "Federation of International Canines".

Special bulk discount for volume breeders. If a purebred dog does not have any registration, they will register application for the dog, on a person's signature - "I (we) do hereby certify that I (we) am (are) the true owner(s) of the dog described on this application and that all information on this application is true and correct, to the best of my (our) knowledge and belief." quote source]

NAPDR - "North American Purebred Dog Registry".
Dog that does not have registration papers or proof of pedigree may be registered with NAPDR.
"A Purebred dog that does not have registration papers may be registed with the NAPDR. If you are 100% sure of the dog's breed fill out the information you know and write UNKNOWN on the other places. If you are not 100% sure please send a side view picture with the APPLICATION" [quote source]

NKC – "National Kennel Club".
Seems to register unknown pedigree dogs with *inspection*. NKC will register dogs that meet the 7/8 purity requirement. They hold "NKC Sanctioned Events".

PCI - Purebred Canine International Registry Service".
If a purebred dog does not have any registration, they will register the dog after a person sends three (3) close-up color photos (front and each side view) with a completed PCI registration application. which may or may not be registered with any other kennel club or those that have no previous history of their Sire or Dam.

UABR - "United All Breed Registry".
Advertises free registration of adults when you register a litter. Caters to the commercial breeders.
Started "Gold Label Pets" for commercial operations, and promotes retailers.

UKCI - "Universal Kennel Club International".
Caters to the commercial dog industry and promises "Complete Privacy Protection'" for all breeders. Does not have a Code Of Ethics and brags about that. Does not currently impose any fines or penalties upon its members for violations of its policies, rules, regulations, guidelines, programs, restrictions and systems. * Registers* mixed breeds for breeding purposes. Will register unknown pedigree. UKCI does not post their "Foundation Stock Registration Application" for dogs never registered/ lost registration. If you wish to see what requirements they require for registry (if any) that is needed to register any dog with them - e-mail them and ask them for it to view!

WKC - "World Kennel Club".
Registers ALL dogs that are *pure-bred*, which may or may not be registered with any other kennel club or those that have no previous history of their Sire or Dam.

WWKC - "World Wide Kennel Club".

Will register dogs registered with *any other* kennel club

Finally, USDA registered puppies come from "commercial breeding farms", commonly referred to as puppy mills. These "commercial breeding farms" sell to stores and brokers, and this is commonly where pet store owners get their puppies.
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UKC-With 250,000 registrations annually, the United Kennel Club is the second oldest and second largest all-breed dog registry in the United States. Founded in 1898 by Chauncey Z. Bennett and currently owned by Wayne R. Cavanaugh, the registry has always supported the idea of the "total dog", meaning a dog that looks and performs equally well.
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Old 01-05-2006, 10:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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UKC-With 250,000 registrations annually, the United Kennel Club is the second oldest and second largest all-breed dog registry in the United States. Founded in 1898 by Chauncey Z. Bennett and currently owned by Wayne R. Cavanaugh, the registry has always supported the idea of the "total dog", meaning a dog that looks and performs equally well.
Yep! The UKC is a recognized registry along with AKC and C(anadian) KC. My list was of 'phoney registries'.
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Fantastic post Rottnpagan!

It should also be noted that these registries exist to serve the almighty dollar and take much pleasure in deceiving the public. Therefore, they purposely choose acronyms that are similar to reputable registries, like the FCI (Federation Cynologique Internationale) and the FIC, and, of course, the CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) and the CKC (Continental Kennel Club). There is a clear distinction between all of these kennel clubs and I would recommend running away from anybody who advertises that they reg'd under any of the aforementioned "kennel clubs" in Rottnpagan's post.

Edited to add: Just as a sidenote, but before you jump down any breeder's throats for advertising that their pups are "CKC-reg'd", it'd be wise to clear any doubt if they mean CanKC or ConKC.
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Fantastic post Rottnpagan!

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Edited to add: Just as a sidenote, but before you jump down any breeder's throats for advertising that their pups are "CKC-reg'd", it'd be wise to clear any doubt if they mean CanKC or ConKC.
Thank you! It's actually from another site, one that I'd copied from ages ago, and can't seem to locate anymore... I've just the text saved in .doc form.

Absolutely sound advice to be sure what the CKC is that they are refering to. And our CKC will register some breeds that the AKC won't and vice versa, so don't just peek at AKC and see that X isn't listed, and assume it's a fraud.
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The Continental Kennel Club will register anything with four legs that you say is a dog. I once registered my guinea pig with them as a "new crossbreed" and they had no problem with registering him. LOL I still have the registration somewhere.
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The Continental Kennel Club will register anything with four legs that you say is a dog. I once registered my guinea pig with them as a "new crossbreed" and they had no problem with registering him. LOL I still have the registration somewhere.
Was it a guineadoodle? *dies*
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Actually his was "registered" as a Neabull. Guinea Pig x Bulldog rofl!
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Actually his was "registered" as a Neabull. Guinea Pig x Bulldog rofl!
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LOL by that comment I can just see you sitting there in your little computer chair trying to imagine that combo. Frightening isn't it! But hey the CKC didn't think so! rofl!
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LOL by that comment I can just see you sitting there in your little computer chair trying to imagine that combo. Frightening isn't it! But hey the CKC didn't think so! rofl!
I'm sitting here, with eyes all-a-boggle.
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Actually his was "registered" as a Neabull. Guinea Pig x Bulldog rofl!
It was bound to happen sooner or later * designer guinea pigs*...
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