Calling All Australians

[MissLonzie]

The ANKC has produced a petition which amongst other things states:
"Recent legislative changes forced by extreme Animal Lib./Rights organisation in a few European countries have seen ....... banning breeds>15kg weight, or>45cm height, or which have a 'pug' face....etc."
You can read all about it on .... http://www.rnswcc.org.au/taildocking3.html

I strongly suggest that everyone who wishes to retain the freedom of owning a dog >15kg weight, or>45cm height and doesn't want these draconian laws to be implemented in Australia get a copy of this petition and find 10 people of like mind to sign it and return it to the RNSWCC at P.O. Box 632, St.Marys before 30th September, 2004 so that your voice may be heard!

[schnaps]

Not much time left.
This is getting totally out of hand!
Is it true that Italy already passed it?
Who is doing their lobbying? It must be costing a lot. Where is the money coming from? How dare these people appropriate the right to tell others what to do?! Whom are they "liberating"? This is very insidious and open ended! And very dangerous.
Not just for dogs.
It is so irrational it calls for civil disobedience!

[Carrie]

Terrible! Tyrants! I hate government control! And that is really over the top.

[Pinscher Mum]

I might be australian but dont live in nsw. This is just stupid and l doubt the validity of it. Though l read the link and it can appear legit, its to ridiculous to believe it true as lve not seen it in any newspapers or heard it on the news.

On further reading it is really only about taildocking, trying to overturn the at present ban on doing the practice. The statement about pug face etc is saying this MIGHT be a future thing, but thats just trying to work people up and get them signing this petition under the wrong reason.

[MissLonzie]

No Pincher Mum, They are not trying to "work people up" as you put it. What they are trying to do is put a stop to the problem before it gains publicity in parliment and is put through by a misinformed, uneducated government (as has already happened with the restircted breeds such as pitbulls). The restricting of these breeds is already very much a reality in other countries, is there any particular reason that you believe that it won't happen in Australia?

This post was not put in the debate section as the purpose of the post was not to debate weather or not the petition was valid or not.... It was simply posted to give those Aussie that wish to fight for their dogs rights the opportunity to do so.

You also state that you are not from NSW..... this is a petition put forward by the ANKC, the governing canine body for ALL of Australia, not just NSW.

Cheers
ML

[Pinscher Mum]

Top of page, Royal New South Wales Canine Council LTD - The controlling body of Purebred Dog Breeding and Exhibitingin New South Wales, Australia , it says it right there. Pitbulls arent banned in my state for one, only one state has that ban active from memory. secondly Further actions are being considered, such as banning breeds >15kg weight, or >45cm height, or which have a 'pug' face, etc. Im not saying it mght not be valid, but it does sound quite bizarre, cmon all dogs with the pug face? thats all short snouted breeds, thats an awful lot of breeds, pugs, cavalier king charles spaniel, pekignese, sounds a little bizarre. Also Top of page, like the page title is TAILDOCKING PETITION, they only mentioned the 15kg part etc stating basically lets get them to take the ban off tail docking or heres what they could do next.

Oh and no l wasnt debating, but on reading on that site thru, noting how its worded and what the aim l am allowed to state that l find that they mentioned those things to hype the issue further, its the media, of course they will, thats what the media does, targets people to get their attention.

Sorry if you think lm doing this to argue, but on reading that site its clear to me the aim is to overturn the current ban on taildocking.

Heres the link to the first page of this petition
http://www.rnswcc.org.au/taildocking2.html

By the way, note the date for this petition is past, and also that they are a member of the ANKC, but its there petition.

3. Banning docking, as we can see by the European Union Convention, also opens the door for breeds to be banned for reasons of anatomy (considered too tall, too heavy, ears too long, head too short, etc). That is, the ultimate aim of animal liberation & animal rights organizations is the complete abolition of the majority of breeds.

Its all about tail docking as l said, l wasnt debating but you did urge me to read further into their site, they say it themselves. It was a tail docking petition.

[MissLonzie]

I am aware that pitbulls are not banned that is why in my last post i stated that the government has RESTICITED the breed (along with 3 others)

Yes the petition is also to reverse the ban on tail docking. But the reason for this is that the petition is aiming to fight the rights of dog owners and breeders (and the right to dock tails is part of those rights).

In Australia the Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasiliero, Japanese Tosa and American Pitbull Terrier/Pitbull Terrier are restricted Australia Wide on top of this 50 local governments have banned the bull terrier, 3 have banned the dobermann, 3 have banned the GSD, 2 have banned the rottweiler as well as the numerous other local government that have banned Bullmastiffs, Mareema Sheepdogs,Neapolitan Mastiffs, Rhodesian Ridgebacks and even the beloved Great Dane!!! Surely you can see that there is a growing theme of banning breeds going on here.

If you doubt the validity of the claims that there might be a ban placed on breeds over 45cm, over 15kg and with a "pug face" that is your choice. Italy already have at least 92 breeds on restricted status and they are not all so called "dangerous dogs", they include breeds such as the corgi and collie!!! There is no reason what so ever to believe that it can happen there but not here!!!

I am sorry Pincher Mum for trying to encourage other to fight for the right of their dogs.... obviously you seem to believe that it is me that is commiting the crime because i refuse to take the dog laws dying down, rather than the idiots that pass them through government.

I am sorry i made a mistake that it was put out by the RNSWCC but unfortunately you missed the fact that...... THAT IS NOT THE IMPORTANT ISSUE!!!

Cheers
Lonzie

P.S You may actually notice that there is no actual date on the petition???? People are collecting more signatures and sending off another lot of petitions to the government.

Cheers
ML

[schnaps]

If people are willing to change their residence for fear of loosing their dog to some local council moron's idea of what is or what is not a pitbull, I think we are a little past "ban". Its persecution.
It is pitbull today, GSD tomorrow, and when all big dogs are gone and people get bitten anyway, it will be turn of whatever is left. Lets not kid ourselves. Reason will be found.
There is a general tendency on part of governments to put their noses where they do not belong.
How can anyone possibly have any faith in a goverment, local or state, that wastes taxpayers money on legislating on what kind of a pet dog I am allowed to own.
Can it get any more ridiculous?