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Old 02-02-2006, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Halti Head Collar ?

Ok, I dont know how any of you feel about Halti Head Collars but IMO I think they are great. Buddy is a strong boy so with the large(size 3) halti I got, he is learning/has learned not to pull. Well I bought the wrong size - I got the size 0(for toy breeds)along with my other one(correct size). I got my size 3 but I still have a brand new size 0 halti. I have tryed to re-sell it but no takers(and taking it back is out of the question since the nearest petsmart is like 200miles away(we where on a doctor visit trip for my dad)- so I thought I may give it away. No one I know here would know how to use it -plus no one has small dogs...so I was wondering if anyone here would want it /know of some one who would want it ? If some one could use it let me know. I just want it gone- things get anoying if they sit on a shelf for a long time and I'm getting anoyed by it being in the supply closet. Its new, I only took it out once to see how it looked . Size 0 and comes with a training book. Any takers just let me know- no shipping fee applies , its totally free to good home LOL....
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Old 02-03-2006, 12:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Im not even sure what it is. But thats very nice to offer it to anyone who could use it
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but I gotta say, haltis don't teach a dog not to pull, they just make it uncomfortable for the dog to pull which is what makes them stop. If your dog really learned not to pull thne you should be able to walk him using just the nylon collar and he still wouldn't pull. Just my 0.02
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't like haltis, or any other "anti-pull" collars/harnesses. It is simple enough to train them to walk on a loose leash if you know the right methods. Although if your dog is snippy and you are worried about them biting around strangers, then the gentle leader and haltis do limit the amount they can open their mouths. I used to have pinch collars on mine because of the "bad rep" Rottweilers have, and it seemed people felt more at ease with me walking by them if they had them on. Now I don't bother, I want the dogs to be comfortable, besides they walk past people as if they weren't even there. Only if I stop to talk do they pay attention to other people, and they sit nice for a petting...LOL. It is law in my city now that Pit Bulls must be muzzled when out in public, which I hope never happens to Rottweilers. I would HATE to have to muzzle my dogs on walks.
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Sure wish my dog was smaller! My halti broke, and I haven't found the box to mail it back to the company with as they supposedly are guarenteed for life.

OC you're right. Head collars don't teach a dog not to pull, but they give the owner the ability to physically control the dog while the dog is learning the self control to be able to walk on a loose leash. Training tool.

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Old 02-03-2006, 09:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well it is not supposed to be an anti pull device, i don't know where all these people get this, and it certainly isn't anything that keeps them from pulling. if they want to do it they do regardless what device is used.
If it is a chokechain a harness or a prong. everydog can pull with everything. it is like with everything. It can be a helpfull tool if it is used correctly!!! and can help improve behaviours or redirect them....
I am getting really upset...... *grrrrr*

One thing I have to ask you pawnclaws.
how do the instructions tell you to use it???
Just curious if they atleast give you the correct advice and instructions???
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well it is not supposed to be an anti pull device, i don't know where all these people get this, and it certainly isn't anything that keeps them from pulling.
This is straight from a pet accessory website, you can check any pet store as well. These is where "we get it"...LOL.

So what is a Halti Collar? I often liken it to a halter for a horse. However, it is neither a halter nor a harness, but actually a collar that fits over the dog's face and fastens above the neck. The lead is attached to a ring below the dog's throat. The image on the right describes it better than words. What does it accomplish? It allows a dog who might otherwise pull on the lead to self-correct without any jerking, yanking, or pinching. It is made of nylon, is quite durable, and comes in one of six sizes and must be fitted to the dog. - www.allourpets.com/htmls/halticollar.shtml
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ok i give in....
that is downright cruel.... to use it like that.
It can haelp with a pulling dog, yes, it can help with a chargingdog etc.
But this discription is so wierd.
That must mislead the people.
Well let's just say it is a selling factor.
The Halti the magic anitpulltool....LOL
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Haltis and gentle leaders can and have caused neck and spine injuries to dogs. They do not teach a dog anything, just prevent them from pulling forward by turning their heads. Train your dog to heal and your pulling problems will be over.
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think Haltis work, but it doesn't solve the problem (as soon as it is off, they will be pulling agian), and they can cause spine and neck problems.

I don't think all anti-pull things are bad. We have a Halti-harness (it is an anti pull device that fits like a harness and just turns the dog whenever it pulls) for my Grandma's Schnauzer. Grandma has no clue how to train dogs and she wasn't able to do anything with Molly because Molly would pull till she was gagging. I find this a sutible solution for both of them. Molly no longer pulls when the harness is on her, and Grandma can now take her for walks.

And when correctly used, they do teach the dog not to pull...but in that case, you have to treat them and praise them just like you would if they weren't wearing it...if they are by your side, you praise. You can't just let them wear it and then not do any training at all. For while doing that might make them not pull, it won't help in the long run.
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I have a halti. I use it when I take Cooper to the vet. If another male pitbull sitting next to him decides to challenge his authority, hell is going to break out. It makes a great muzzle/collar in one.

No, my dog isnt a raging beast, he gets along fine with most dogs. Close contact in vet offices with beligerant dogs doesnt go down well when he is already freaked out.
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So sorry -I forgot about this post. Actually I only use it in the summer, seems like more loose dogs around and if one come towards me and Buddy I know somethings going to happen(many around here arnt very friendly). He is actualy good with not pulling but that due to using a long loose 30' lead at the park. I rarely use it now and so far has been in the storage area un-used for nearly 4 months. I'm keeping it for the summer months though... And I do agree, pulling can be teached with a better method but the halti gives control of behaiviours but if only used correctly. I respect every ones opinion, many dont like these and I respect that..... Well I guess the small one'll remain in the storage area, I may have to just throw it in the closet for now- just to get it out of my sight lol....
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I use a halti on my great dane if she starts to get too boistrous. The key thing to remember is to always use two leads. The lead attached to the collar should be the one you have a proper hold of and use as a default to check the dog - a dog can hurt its neck if it lunges against a halti at the wrong angle and its head is whipped round. The halti is there to check the dog IF NEEDED. It should not be the primary method of control. Flyte wears her halti if we are in town with a lot of distractions around and as a refresher course every so often.
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Old 02-10-2006, 04:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yep, thats true.... A 2nd leash helps out alot and is recommended . A good rule for people who use haltis.
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Old 02-10-2006, 05:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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So it doesnt correct any behavior?
i have never actually seen a dog with one, I just hear stuff.

Could you still use it to correct pulling issues?
Like if a dog were to start pulling could you still correct the behavior.
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