Globalpaw.com Dog Forum  

Go Back   Globalpaw.com Dog Forum > General Discussion > The Global Paw
Register Blogs Forum Rules Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

The Global Paw Come here for general discussion about anything!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-14-2004, 04:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
Laura
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 488
Rep Power: 85 LabLuver22 User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.LabLuver22 User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.
Woc!!!! Grrrr!!!!



OK, somebody mentioned having a seperate thread for those idiots, so here it is! All ranting and raving, do it here!

BTW, I didn't post this in "Debate" because I think we're all pretty much on the same side (I hope we are....). If it really turns into a debate, well, we'll worry about that when the time comes.

I e-mailed WOC about a week ago. I played dumb and pretended I was a potential puppy buyer. Haven't heard back from them yet....

Last edited by LabLuver22 : 11-14-2004 at 04:39 PM.
LabLuver22 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 05:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
:]
 
FurryAngel33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,279
Rep Power: 100 FurryAngel33 has a good dog forum reputation
what is Woc?????


A puppy mill?????
__________________
aww look at that face!
FurryAngel33 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 06:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
Sourmug Mom
 
Crossfire Bulldogs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Snuggled Between The Snorts & Snores.
Posts: 7,844
Blog Entries: 3
Rep Power: 282 Crossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forumCrossfire Bulldogs user is more repute than ever in the dog forum
Those WOC people just make me ill.
__________________
Get more out of Global Paw. Check out these great features.
Global Paw Book Club -- Art Classes -- Woof Review

I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief.
~ Gerry Spence
As a member of Global paw staff my opinions are not necessarily those of the website or the owner.
Crossfire Bulldogs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 06:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
Semper Fidelis - Marines
 
sheltiepups's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: somewhere
Posts: 2,438
Rep Power: 127 sheltiepups has a good dog forum reputation
Send a message via AIM to sheltiepups Send a message via Yahoo to sheltiepups
They are sick..
__________________
Breezy & her shelties
Thank you Dawn, for a wonderful siggy :)
2cutepups
sheltiepups is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 06:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
doberslave
 
doberkim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 830
Rep Power: 101 doberkim User is simply amazing in the dog forumdoberkim User is simply amazing in the dog forumdoberkim User is simply amazing in the dog forumdoberkim User is simply amazing in the dog forum
theres been a lot of info about them all over the ewbsite.i bookmarked it somewhere. .. i should find it...
__________________
bowies modern love rn cgc snd
doberkim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 07:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
New Ridgeback Mom!
 
kerriebeth21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 422
Rep Power: 84 kerriebeth21 has a good dog forum reputation
Send a message via AIM to kerriebeth21
They got taken to court by a group of people early this year...I wonder what happened there?
__________________


"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love.
For me they are the role model for being alive." - Gilda Radner
My Doggy Homepage
kerriebeth21 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 07:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
don't have a cow!
 
gaddylovesdogs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 3,426
Rep Power: 151 gaddylovesdogs user can't get much better in the dog forum.gaddylovesdogs user can't get much better in the dog forum.gaddylovesdogs user can't get much better in the dog forum.gaddylovesdogs user can't get much better in the dog forum.gaddylovesdogs user can't get much better in the dog forum.
BOO WOC!!! After about three conversations with these BYBs, I have come to really hate them. You can check out my conversations with em' in "Designer mixes" which is posted in the Debate Forum.

I think we all agree that not only does WOC not care about their puppies but only the money, but they know absolutely nothing about breeding. The fact that they say they were involved in the show ring is hilarious.....BYB dogs don't usually get in there....
__________________
Looking for a new pet? Search www.petfinder.com for your next love.

If you have a heart, please help the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
www.redcross.org
gaddylovesdogs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2004, 07:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
New Ridgeback Mom!
 
kerriebeth21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 422
Rep Power: 84 kerriebeth21 has a good dog forum reputation
Send a message via AIM to kerriebeth21
Media Release

CONTACTS:

MI K. KIM, ESQ. MARCY I. LAHART, ESQ
Feldman & Getz, LLP Marcy I. LaHart, PA.
155 NW 167th Street 711 Talladega Street
Penthouse West Palm Beach, FL 33405
(305) 770-0003 (561) 655-9537
mikim12345@yahoo.com milahart@bellsouth.net

December 12, 2003

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

PUPPY STORE SUED FOR MISLEADING CUSTOMERS, SELLING SICK PUPPIES

(Pembroke Pines, FL) Two South Florida attorneys have filed a lawsuit on behalf of customers that bought puppies from Wizard of Claws Inc., alleging that the Pembroke Pines pet store defrauds customers by intentionally misrepresenting the origin of the puppies sold, and by selling puppies that suffer from a wide array of health problems, including contagious diseases and genetic disorders.

Although Wizard of Claws has told customers that their puppies were imported from "reputable" breeders in South America, according to the complaint filed yesterday Broward County Circuit Court, in reality the puppies were obtained from large scale commercial breeding facilities in Missouri, commonly known as a "puppy mills", where animal welfare concerns are wholly secondary to profits.

Plaintiff Shannah Diaz of Miami purchased a Maltese puppy, “Prince,” from Wizard of Claws on September 6, 2002 for $950.00. Prince suffered from a congenital bleeding disorder, and died from internal hemorrhaging when he was less than a year old. After Prince died, Diaz began to suspect that Prince had come from a puppy mill, and asked a Wizard of Claws. "They assured me that my puppy had come from a reputable private breeder " Diaz .said, "but I later discovered that my puppy had been shipped to Florida from a commercial breeder in Missouri. " Wizard of Claws refused to reimburse any of Diaz's vet bills.

According to the Humane Society of the United States, the documented problems of puppy mills include overbreeding, inbreeding, minimal veterinary care, poor quality of food and shelter, lack of socialization with humans, overcrowded cages, and the killing of unwanted animals. To the unsuspecting consumer, this often means buying a puppy facing an array of immediate veterinary problems or harboring genetically borne diseases that may not be detected until much later.

Wizard of Claws, which claims to specialize in "tiny, tea-cup size puppies" sells puppies from its Pembroke Pines store and over the Internet. Plaintiff Mary Ibarra of San Antonio, Texas ordered an English Bulldog from Wizard of Claws, and knew that something was very wrong with her new puppy moments after "Gracie" arrived from at the San Antonio International Airport. Gracie, who had received a clean bill of health from Wizard of Claws veterinarian of choice Dr. Jan Bellows, walked on her wrists and she kept falling down on her back legs. Gracie was soon diagnosed as suffering from severe hip dysplasia with early onset arthritis. Gracie’s hip sockets are so bad that they do not have a cup to hold the ball of the joint, and she needs at least two surgeries. If the surgeries are not successful Gracie will have to be euthanized. Wizard of Claws refuses to assist with the costs of the surgeries, or to even reimburse the $1200.00 Ibarra paid for the pup.

The lawsuit, which alleges fraud, breach of warranty and multiple counts of violating the Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act, asks that the plaintiffs be reimbursed for the purchase price of their puppies as well as the veterinary expenses incurred as a result of the purchase an unhealthy pup.

NOTE: Some of the victims of Wizard of Claws and other animal lovers will be demonstrating outside the store at 9101Taft Street, Pembroke Pines tommorow, Saturday, December 13th starting at 11:00 am. Attorneys Mi Kim and Marcy LaHart will be present to answer any questions concerning the case.
__________________


"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love.
For me they are the role model for being alive." - Gilda Radner
My Doggy Homepage
kerriebeth21 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 12:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
Rip's Girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,580
Rep Power: 139 Rip's Girl user can't get much better in the dog forum.Rip's Girl user can't get much better in the dog forum.Rip's Girl user can't get much better in the dog forum.Rip's Girl user can't get much better in the dog forum.Rip's Girl user can't get much better in the dog forum.
Send a message via MSN to Rip's Girl
I had a nice talk with "Maija" today. Too bad, I didn't save the chat log, but her excuse for breeding outside the standard (Chihuahuas over 6lbs - and for 900+ dollars at that!!) was "Well I see chihuahuas on the street quite often that are over 6 pounds". She also said "the breed standard isn't always right."
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She got tired of me rather quickly and left by saying "I have to go answer phones now".
__________________
Rip's Girl is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 05:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
:]
 
FurryAngel33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,279
Rep Power: 100 FurryAngel33 has a good dog forum reputation
AS long as they are close to there standard weight not like way under the weight!!
__________________
aww look at that face!
FurryAngel33 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 08:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
New Ridgeback Mom!
 
kerriebeth21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 422
Rep Power: 84 kerriebeth21 has a good dog forum reputation
Send a message via AIM to kerriebeth21
I know Peta can be way overboard...but when it comes to WOC anything and everything should be done, I wrote to Peta, this is their response:

Dear Kerrie,

Thank you for contacting us about Wizard of Claws. We are aware of this puppy mill and have tried to help close them down. Are you able to go to the facility (as a potential buyer) and get photos and/or video footage for us? This is so valuable for the animals and for local authorities to take action!

Please review these links to learn more about puppy mills and how you can help the animals:

http://www.helpinganimals.com/angel-petpack.html

http://www.helppuppies.com/nc/char.html

If you witness an animal in imminent danger, please contact animal control immediately! You can also contact your state veterinarian and the USDA to file a formal complaint and verify that a breeder is licensed. They are responsible for licensing, regulating, and inspecting puppy mills.

We receive constant complaints about animals who suffer and die in the pet trade nationwide. As you probably know, the focus of the pet trade industry, which includes breeders, dealers, pet stores, and puppy mills, is profit, not compassion for animals. Expenses are kept at a minimum to ensure the highest possible profit margin, which often manifests in mistreatment or neglect of the animals. We share your concern for these poor animals and will be glad to try to help once we have more information. We need documentation in order to build a case including: dated, concise eyewitness or veterinary statements from people who have purchased a dog from the mill, the name of the facility and owners and their address, and details of investigations or media coverage of this mill. Are you able to provide photos or video footage? This could go a long to way to help these poor animals.

Thank you for your compassion for the animals!

For the animals,

Amy R. Black
Domestic Animal and Wildlife Rescue & Information
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
AmyB@PETA.Org
__________________


"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love.
For me they are the role model for being alive." - Gilda Radner
My Doggy Homepage
kerriebeth21 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 10:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
Fuzzbutt attack
 
Ritz459's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 5,425
Blog Entries: 3
Rep Power: 219 Ritz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forumRitz459 user is more repute than ever in the dog forum
WOC makes me soooooooooooooooooooo mad! I can hardly stand going to their website. I feel so sorry for all of thos poor dogs......I don't know how anybody could be stupid enough to buy from them in the first place....I was wondering.....how do you chat with them? I want to see what they say for myself! (I'll play dum and see what they say....probably something stupid......)
__________________
~Blackie, Rose, Chloe (dogs), Pheobe (cat), Casey, Dameon (ferrets), Joey ('Tiel), Dot, Louie (cavies), Pickachu (hamster), Rush (R.I.P. 15yrs), Lucy (R.I.P. 4yrs)~
Ritz459 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
Laura
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 488
Rep Power: 85 LabLuver22 User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.LabLuver22 User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.
There's a "live chat" button that you can click on.
LabLuver22 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 03:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
Sheltie Addict
 
ChiChi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina YEEHAW!
Posts: 1,439
Rep Power: 104 ChiChi User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.ChiChi User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.
Send a message via AIM to ChiChi
so there webpage is? i would like to play dumb too! i have never heard of WOC but reading wat kerrie put.... OMG! how could they!?!?!? so i would love there web page!
__________________
Owned by Brody the sheltie






"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
--Ben Williams
ChiChi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 03:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
Laura
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 488
Rep Power: 85 LabLuver22 User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.LabLuver22 User has done a lot of good in the dog forum in the past.
www.wizardofclaws.com
LabLuver22 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright 2008 - Globalpaw.com Dog Forum

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112