Oh man here we go again....mixed breeders... - Page 2

Kaiyah · 12-21-2004, 07:20 PM

Gotta love people!!

Kaiyah · 12-21-2004, 07:24 PM

Crapper, hit the wrong button!! It keeps getting worse. I was at a book store with my sister looking for min pin books and we found a book that was supposed to be all about the pure bred dog. Complete with facts, pictures, personalities..etc. However, we could not find a min Pin anywhere in the book. But we did find, Labradoodles, and Spoodles (cocker spaniel and miniature poodle). After looking through 3 more books, we found that they all had these dogs in them. And listed them as "purebred".

schnaps · 12-21-2004, 08:36 PM

That is pathetic.
It takes about 10 seconds flat to take a photo of my dogs. And half that time is to switch on the camera. They probably dont even know who the father is.
Christmas is a good time for these people. Last week I saw a "spanador".Lovely pup, A$980, what is in store for him is anybody's guess. There may be labrador there, but where the spaniel was I have no idea. More likely ridgeback. It said vet checked and wormed. Vet check is not much if you dont know parents history.
I could do some violence to these people.

oc_spirit · 12-21-2004, 08:47 PM

I don;t mind purposeful mixing when the mix is for a good reason (profit is NOT a good reason) like when mixing the Siberian Husky with the Greyhound OR Pointer to get a dog that is faster and has more endurance for sledding but can still withstand cold temperatures, requires minimal food in comparison to other breeds the same weight, and has a strong drive to pull for long distances.

I'm even o with the Goldendoodle or Labradoodle when it's for a blind person who's allergic to massive amounts of dog hair since labs and retrievers are known to shed a lot.

But when it's just to make money then it is a terrible thing and I shudder any time I hear someone say they paid 1G for a mix pup. That's just downright idiotic IMO....

Cheers!

schnaps · 12-21-2004, 09:18 PM

Not everyone will agree with me, but I think anyone who profits from breeding the dogs is not in it for the right reason.
I know number of breeders, diligent responsible people and consensus is this is a hobby and as such, done properly, costs money.
I sometimes see breakup of costs of a litter and associated expenses and these people are out of pocket, sometime for thousands.

DarknessDivine · 12-21-2004, 09:53 PM

You can train short haired pure bred dogs to be sight dogs...

LabLuver22 · 12-22-2004, 05:15 AM

Schnaps, I'm with you all the way! No dogs should be bred for profit. A breeder that is doing the job right will lose money, or, if they're lucky, break even.

gaddylovesdogs · 12-22-2004, 09:59 AM

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Hi, Lucy

Thought I'd take a minute to fill you in on Critter, who is 6-months old today. He was one of the Dec. 15 Soda Pop-Liberace schnoodles. He is doing great and I am enjoying him immensely. He's up to 16 pounds and was neutered several weeks ago. He was house-broken in a very short time after I got him and seems very intelligent. He picks up new commands and learns quickly. Very importantly, he loves people and other dogs. I take him to a large dog run at a local park and he wears himself out romping with the other dogs, big and small. I've had lots of people inquire about his breed and compliment him because he so cute. I've given your web address to several people who seemed genuinely interested in getting a schnoodle of their own. Thanks again.

Rodger

GOSH these IDIOTS!!! "I've had lots of people inquire about his breed" YOUR STUPID "Schnoodle" is NOT a BREED, HE'S A SICK MIX YOU AS AN IDIOT BOUGHT FROM A PUPPY MILL!!! GRR! GRR! GRR!!

I don't mind (extremely) if someone RESPONSIBLY mixes two breeds for a wonderful purpose....for a job. If they work as hard as possible to have it accepted as an actual breed, to keep it healthy and sweet....not for money AT ALL. It bugs the HECK out of me to see "Labradoodles," but especially "Chocolate Labradoodles" because Chocolate Labradors are obviously my favorite coat color for Labs is Chocolate (I've got a great Chocolate girl that I love to death).

puppylove · 12-24-2004, 10:15 AM

puppylove · 12-24-2004, 10:17 AM

seems to me there are enough MIXED breed dogs being put to sleep in our shelters why breed more mixed breeds on purpose? People will do anything if they think they can make some $$$$$ outta the deal . A down right shame!!!

Scott & Brutus & Vin · 01-05-2005, 10:27 AM

Scott & Brutus & Vin · 01-05-2005, 10:33 AM

I am totally against this website, and the shmoes running it saying it is not a puppmill, wink , wink. However, comment on this thread make me laugh also..REMEMBER ALL OUR DOGS ARE NOT PUREBREEDS they started from somewhere..most german dogs have affenpincher in them for ex. the DOBEY has gone through SEVERAL moderations, mixes and concotions..remember there just a GSD or a BOXER from the beginning..they had to be developed..Most of our dogs as we know them today are only 200-300 years in the making..Shoot in 200 years people might hold labradoodle in high regard, I DOUBT IT, but it could happen. EVEN my lovely schnauzers have been developed..cross-bred to achieve its look of today. MY FINAL WORDS THOUGH..i do think the website is a joke and is hilarious, and a sorry attempt at a legitimate kennel. I myself don't like DESIGNER breeds, especially since my schnauzers are constantly used (because they are hypo-allergetica)...IM OUT!

Scott & Brutus & Vin · 01-05-2005, 10:35 AM

by the way i can't type and my run-on sentences and fragmented sentences would make my 4th grade English teacher's squirm...

***Cassiepeia*** · 01-06-2005, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott & Brutus & Vin

I am totally against this website, and the shmoes running it saying it is not a puppmill, wink , wink. However, comment on this thread make me laugh also..REMEMBER ALL OUR DOGS ARE NOT PUREBREEDS they started from somewhere..most german dogs have affenpincher in them for ex. the DOBEY has gone through SEVERAL moderations, mixes and concotions..remember there just a GSD or a BOXER from the beginning..they had to be developed..Most of our dogs as we know them today are only 200-300 years in the making..Shoot in 200 years people might hold labradoodle in high regard, I DOUBT IT, but it could happen. EVEN my lovely schnauzers have been developed..cross-bred to achieve its look of today. MY FINAL WORDS THOUGH..i do think the website is a joke and is hilarious, and a sorry attempt at a legitimate kennel. I myself don't like DESIGNER breeds, especially since my schnauzers are constantly used (because they are hypo-allergetica)...IM OUT!

I don't really think the problem people have is the mixing.. it's the motivation behind it. Which sadly is reflected in the quality (and number) of dogs that are produced as a result. Were these people (all 'designer' dog breeders) trying to create a new breed with a purpose (sorry, I don't think 'companion' is a purpose... there are so many dogs that fill that niche already) I'm not sure we would have such a problem with it, at least I know I wouldn't.

Personally, I believe the problem is not with the breeders (no-one hit me just yet.. I'm making a point! LOL

), it's with the general public. The majority of people out there don't know the first thing about dogs, dog breeds or dogs in shelters, and it's their lust for anything new, cool & cute that inspires people to breed these dogs in order to profit from the selfishness. Getting info out there and educating people, whilst it may not satisfy us 'dog people' in the short term, could do wonders in the long term to help stamp out this horrid practice.
Eh, but hey... that's just my opinion.

Cass.

strippydog · 01-07-2005, 10:31 AM

Sorry for butting in here but I´m new and just read this thread.
I have a mix that we found in a dog shelter. He is simply adorable! But I can´t say that I agree with mixing as they do it on that site.

I personally think that if you want a mix, go look in the shelters. There´s more than enough to choose from there.

12-21-2004, 07:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
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12-21-2004, 07:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Kaiyah Lab/Akita X Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central, New York Posts: 94 Rep Power: 80	Crapper, hit the wrong button!! It keeps getting worse. I was at a book store with my sister looking for min pin books and we found a book that was supposed to be all about the pure bred dog. Complete with facts, pictures, personalities..etc. However, we could not find a min Pin anywhere in the book. But we did find, Labradoodles, and Spoodles (cocker spaniel and miniature poodle). After looking through 3 more books, we found that they all had these dogs in them. And listed them as "purebred".
	__________________ R.I.P. Kaiyah, 06.13.05 Always loved and never forgotten, We miss you greatly.

12-21-2004, 08:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
oc_spirit Snow Girl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,621 Rep Power: 146	I don;t mind purposeful mixing when the mix is for a good reason (profit is NOT a good reason) like when mixing the Siberian Husky with the Greyhound OR Pointer to get a dog that is faster and has more endurance for sledding but can still withstand cold temperatures, requires minimal food in comparison to other breeds the same weight, and has a strong drive to pull for long distances. I'm even o with the Goldendoodle or Labradoodle when it's for a blind person who's allergic to massive amounts of dog hair since labs and retrievers are known to shed a lot. But when it's just to make money then it is a terrible thing and I shudder any time I hear someone say they paid 1G for a mix pup. That's just downright idiotic IMO.... Cheers!
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12-21-2004, 09:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
DarknessDivine Boxer Mom Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 1,239 Rep Power: 105	You can train short haired pure bred dogs to be sight dogs...
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12-22-2004, 05:15 AM	#22 (permalink)
LabLuver22 Laura Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 488 Rep Power: 89	Schnaps, I'm with you all the way! No dogs should be bred for profit. A breeder that is doing the job right will lose money, or, if they're lucky, break even.
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12-21-2004, 08:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
schnaps Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NSW Australia Posts: 58 Rep Power: 80	That is pathetic. It takes about 10 seconds flat to take a photo of my dogs. And half that time is to switch on the camera. They probably dont even know who the father is. Christmas is a good time for these people. Last week I saw a "spanador".Lovely pup, A$980, what is in store for him is anybody's guess. There may be labrador there, but where the spaniel was I have no idea. More likely ridgeback. It said vet checked and wormed. Vet check is not much if you dont know parents history. I could do some violence to these people.

12-21-2004, 09:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
schnaps Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NSW Australia Posts: 58 Rep Power: 80	Not everyone will agree with me, but I think anyone who profits from breeding the dogs is not in it for the right reason. I know number of breeders, diligent responsible people and consensus is this is a hobby and as such, done properly, costs money. I sometimes see breakup of costs of a litter and associated expenses and these people are out of pocket, sometime for thousands.

12-24-2004, 10:15 AM	#24 (permalink)
puppylove rat terrier Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laporte In Posts: 26 Rep Power: 78

12-24-2004, 10:17 AM	#25 (permalink)
puppylove rat terrier Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laporte In Posts: 26 Rep Power: 78	seems to me there are enough MIXED breed dogs being put to sleep in our shelters why breed more mixed breeds on purpose? People will do anything if they think they can make some $$$$$ outta the deal . A down right shame!!!

01-05-2005, 10:27 AM	#26 (permalink)
Scott & Brutus & Vin Giant Schnauzer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kalamazoo Posts: 196 Rep Power: 77

01-05-2005, 10:33 AM	#27 (permalink)
Scott & Brutus & Vin Giant Schnauzer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kalamazoo Posts: 196 Rep Power: 77	I am totally against this website, and the shmoes running it saying it is not a puppmill, wink , wink. However, comment on this thread make me laugh also..REMEMBER ALL OUR DOGS ARE NOT PUREBREEDS they started from somewhere..most german dogs have affenpincher in them for ex. the DOBEY has gone through SEVERAL moderations, mixes and concotions..remember there just a GSD or a BOXER from the beginning..they had to be developed..Most of our dogs as we know them today are only 200-300 years in the making..Shoot in 200 years people might hold labradoodle in high regard, I DOUBT IT, but it could happen. EVEN my lovely schnauzers have been developed..cross-bred to achieve its look of today. MY FINAL WORDS THOUGH..i do think the website is a joke and is hilarious, and a sorry attempt at a legitimate kennel. I myself don't like DESIGNER breeds, especially since my schnauzers are constantly used (because they are hypo-allergetica)...IM OUT!

01-05-2005, 10:35 AM	#28 (permalink)
Scott & Brutus & Vin Giant Schnauzer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kalamazoo Posts: 196 Rep Power: 77	by the way i can't type and my run-on sentences and fragmented sentences would make my 4th grade English teacher's squirm...

01-07-2005, 10:31 AM	#30 (permalink)
strippydog Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 74	Sorry for butting in here but I´m new and just read this thread. I have a mix that we found in a dog shelter. He is simply adorable! But I can´t say that I agree with mixing as they do it on that site. I personally think that if you want a mix, go look in the shelters. There´s more than enough to choose from there.
strippydog Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 74

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