shelties or cairinoodles

cherie · 04-02-2005, 02:27 PM

Hello,

Does anyone know about Cairnpoos? Cairin terriers/poodle mixes.
I am from Oregon and am trying to find a close kennel that raises cairin/poodle .

Also can someone tell me about shelties? I am looking for a small dog that can travel in car with us and also go to work with us. We work in an office that has room to run for a dog , but in the summer is filled with tourists and sometimes other dogs. The dog needs to be able to be well trained to stay around the office and needs to get a long with other dogs. Any help is greatly appreicated....

cherie

Global Paw · 04-02-2005, 02:46 PM

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ChiChi · 04-02-2005, 03:09 PM

SHelties are great!!! i must warn you... all the shelties I have known are big barkers (especially mine! LOL) umm my pupper loves the car all tjo some dont.... i am actually quite new to the Breed, Sheltiepups could help out more than me.....

BellFounder · 04-02-2005, 03:42 PM

Cairn/poodles are nothing more than mongrels and no responsible breeder will raise them, they are a money-making gimick. Please do not support the intentional breeding of mongrels.
Shelties are nice little dogs but tend to yap a lot and bark at everything so might not be suitable for an office.
I would recommend a purebred cairn terrier or a cavalier king charles spaniel. Either breed would fulfil your requirements.

calgal · 04-02-2005, 04:19 PM

Generally if you find all sorts of mixed breeds that people have made demandable, they will be found from a back yard breeder. I wouldn't really encourage anyone to buy a dog from them.
If your looking for a small non-shedding dog then look into a poodle, West Highland, Yorkie and maybe Scotty. If you like a non-shedding medium size look into the standard poodle. They are fantastic dogs and are not yappers. Any dog that you get though your going to have to train and that includes socialization. I can't stress that enough!

Rip's Girl · 04-02-2005, 04:32 PM

I would personally avoid a "carindoodle" or any "Doodle" breed for that matter. If you're searching for one because you want a dog that doens't shed: Wirehaired breeds like Cairn Terriers don't shed much at all, and if you want a hypoallergenic dog, might I ask what is wrong with a Poodle? They're fantastic dogs and no they don't have to be kept in their show clip.
They look like regular dogs in a sporting clip.

LabLuver22 · 04-02-2005, 04:34 PM

A cairnoodle really is not a good idea. There are a lot of reasons why, and we have some threads on it in the Debate section, but basically to sum it up: No responsible breeder would breed cairnoodles. Responsible breeds only breed to improve the breed, and a cairnoodle is really not a breed. And if a breeder honestly wanted to create a Cairn terrier/poodle mix (for working purposes, or something like that), they would give it a better name than a Cairnoodle.

Now, let's focus on Shelties. They are great little dogs, extremely intelligent and easy to train, and they get along with pretty much everybody, but like Bellfounder said, they bark. A lot. So if barking is a problem, you should either

a) get another breed of dog
b) get a quiet adult sheltie from a rescue group or reputable breeder (yes, there are quiet shelties out there!)

If the barking thing is a problem and you really, really want to get a puppy, here are some breeds to look into. I'm not 100% sure on these, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Toy/Miniature Poodle
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
Cairn Terrier
Westie

Also, never underestimate a plain old Heinz 57 mongrel! As long as you're not buying one from a breeder, they can make fine pets. It might be a bit risky to get a puppy, but you could definitely find an adult dog that filled your requirements at local shelters.

And remember that you don't necessarily have to train your dog to stay around you at the office. I mean, training is a very good idea, but you could also hook a leash to something stable near your workplace, and provide your dog with a bed and plenty of chew toys.

sheltiepups · 04-02-2005, 04:45 PM

With the sheltie, it would be fine... Although, I would say, that if the dog is going to be around strangers a lot, you buy from a responsible breeder. As shelties are 13 - 16 inches, they are a smaller, "harder" breed. I do not know what you mean by "stay around the office" I would not allow any dog outdoors without being on a leash, in kennel, or fence.

A few things..

Shelties make great pets, bonding strongly with their owners. Because of their instinct to please shelties are easy to train. They are sensitive and respond to positive training.

Around strangers, shelties are more reserved then most breeds, taking a minuet to warm up to strangers. This “reserved” temperament should never be confused with being shy or scared, it is just being “watchful”. The sheltie is a double coated breed, and they require at lest a bushing once a week to maintain cleanliness and heath. Most adult sheltie (neutered) “blow” their coats once a year. When puppies “blow” their coats, fur seems like its everywhere! But that type of “blow” only happens once, (when the puppy fur falls out for the adult fur). The males have “heavier”, thicker coats then the female.

This is a long post and the only one point I have left to make is that they are barkers. My three do not bark in the house, but outside when they are playing they bark up a storm, the reason for them barking so loud is (I think) because the shelties ancestors always lived within three miles of the ocean, and had to be heard over the sound of crashing surf, the call of sea animals, the bleating of lambs, and the howl of high winds. Teaching them early when to not bark is always a good thing

Anything else you want to know, let me know!

2pups622 · 04-02-2005, 05:07 PM

cairnadoodle ?? ohk

you should get a sheltie

dollface · 04-02-2005, 05:19 PM

Why not check out your local animal shelter if you are interested in a mixed breed, since there are both mixed and purebreds there in great need of a loving home.

If you are not so worried about shedding Boston's do make wonderful lil house and traveling companions. Any dog you get it all depends how you bring them up, socializing and obedience training is the key to a well adjusted pet.

oc_spirit · 04-02-2005, 10:49 PM

One thing about terriers in general is that they are very highly prey driven and even the most well trained-to-stick-around dog will happily take after a bunny hoping by, or even just wander off in search of fun if they get bored.

Poodles are awesome dogs as they are very trainable, and love everyone. In a sporting trim, their fur requires minimal brushing.

Shelties are also great easily-trained dogs but their coat does require quite a bit of maintanance.

I must agree with everyone else and strongly advise you to stay away from people who are intentionally breeding mixed breed dogs as they are only in it for the money or to have "cute puppies". This would mean that all the proper research and know-how of whelping isn't there and the puppies might not have been raised in the best conditions with proper amounts of socialization. This in turn could mean a sick puppy, or even a puppy with behavioural problems.

Kelly · 04-04-2005, 09:48 AM

If you DO want a cairn/poodle mix, look on petfinder, there are some homeless ones out there and just because the are "designer breeds" doesn't mean they don't need a home. Just don't go looking for a breeder as any breeders who breed mutts (which is exactly what a cairn/poodle mix is) are not good breeders at all.

Petfinder though...check on there. Good luck on your dog search.

Also wanted to add, check the local shelter, both of my dogs are from there and both are well behaved, trained offleash and great with other dogs. Of course offleash training requires ALOT of work, ALOT. So be careful, you can't just let a dog off and expect it to come back when called.

But either petfinder or the shelter should have some smaller mixed breeds that would fit your requirements.

04-02-2005, 02:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
cherie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	shelties or cairinoodles Hello, Does anyone know about Cairnpoos? Cairin terriers/poodle mixes. I am from Oregon and am trying to find a close kennel that raises cairin/poodle . Also can someone tell me about shelties? I am looking for a small dog that can travel in car with us and also go to work with us. We work in an office that has room to run for a dog , but in the summer is filled with tourists and sometimes other dogs. The dog needs to be able to be well trained to stay around the office and needs to get a long with other dogs. Any help is greatly appreicated.... cherie
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04-02-2005, 03:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
ChiChi Sheltie Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina YEEHAW! Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 103	SHelties are great!!! i must warn you... all the shelties I have known are big barkers (especially mine! LOL) umm my pupper loves the car all tjo some dont.... i am actually quite new to the Breed, Sheltiepups could help out more than me.....
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04-02-2005, 04:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rip's Girl Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,580 Rep Power: 138	I would personally avoid a "carindoodle" or any "Doodle" breed for that matter. If you're searching for one because you want a dog that doens't shed: Wirehaired breeds like Cairn Terriers don't shed much at all, and if you want a hypoallergenic dog, might I ask what is wrong with a Poodle? They're fantastic dogs and no they don't have to be kept in their show clip. They look like regular dogs in a sporting clip.
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04-02-2005, 04:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
LabLuver22 Laura Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 488 Rep Power: 83	A cairnoodle really is not a good idea. There are a lot of reasons why, and we have some threads on it in the Debate section, but basically to sum it up: No responsible breeder would breed cairnoodles. Responsible breeds only breed to improve the breed, and a cairnoodle is really not a breed. And if a breeder honestly wanted to create a Cairn terrier/poodle mix (for working purposes, or something like that), they would give it a better name than a Cairnoodle. Now, let's focus on Shelties. They are great little dogs, extremely intelligent and easy to train, and they get along with pretty much everybody, but like Bellfounder said, they bark. A lot. So if barking is a problem, you should either a) get another breed of dog b) get a quiet adult sheltie from a rescue group or reputable breeder (yes, there are quiet shelties out there!) If the barking thing is a problem and you really, really want to get a puppy, here are some breeds to look into. I'm not 100% sure on these, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Toy/Miniature Poodle Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Cairn Terrier Westie Also, never underestimate a plain old Heinz 57 mongrel! As long as you're not buying one from a breeder, they can make fine pets. It might be a bit risky to get a puppy, but you could definitely find an adult dog that filled your requirements at local shelters. And remember that you don't necessarily have to train your dog to stay around you at the office. I mean, training is a very good idea, but you could also hook a leash to something stable near your workplace, and provide your dog with a bed and plenty of chew toys.
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04-02-2005, 04:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
sheltiepups Semper Fidelis - Marines Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: somewhere Posts: 2,438 Rep Power: 126	With the sheltie, it would be fine... Although, I would say, that if the dog is going to be around strangers a lot, you buy from a responsible breeder. As shelties are 13 - 16 inches, they are a smaller, "harder" breed. I do not know what you mean by "stay around the office" I would not allow any dog outdoors without being on a leash, in kennel, or fence. A few things.. Shelties make great pets, bonding strongly with their owners. Because of their instinct to please shelties are easy to train. They are sensitive and respond to positive training. Around strangers, shelties are more reserved then most breeds, taking a minuet to warm up to strangers. This “reserved” temperament should never be confused with being shy or scared, it is just being “watchful”. The sheltie is a double coated breed, and they require at lest a bushing once a week to maintain cleanliness and heath. Most adult sheltie (neutered) “blow” their coats once a year. When puppies “blow” their coats, fur seems like its everywhere! But that type of “blow” only happens once, (when the puppy fur falls out for the adult fur). The males have “heavier”, thicker coats then the female. This is a long post and the only one point I have left to make is that they are barkers. My three do not bark in the house, but outside when they are playing they bark up a storm, the reason for them barking so loud is (I think) because the shelties ancestors always lived within three miles of the ocean, and had to be heard over the sound of crashing surf, the call of sea animals, the bleating of lambs, and the howl of high winds. Teaching them early when to not bark is always a good thing Anything else you want to know, let me know!
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04-02-2005, 02:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Global Paw Information Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 125	Your thread has been moved.

04-02-2005, 03:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
BellFounder Collie girl Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 399 Rep Power: 77	Cairn/poodles are nothing more than mongrels and no responsible breeder will raise them, they are a money-making gimick. Please do not support the intentional breeding of mongrels. Shelties are nice little dogs but tend to yap a lot and bark at everything so might not be suitable for an office. I would recommend a purebred cairn terrier or a cavalier king charles spaniel. Either breed would fulfil your requirements.

04-02-2005, 04:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
calgal My Yorkster kids! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: central ca. coast Posts: 6,609 Rep Power: 222	Generally if you find all sorts of mixed breeds that people have made demandable, they will be found from a back yard breeder. I wouldn't really encourage anyone to buy a dog from them. If your looking for a small non-shedding dog then look into a poodle, West Highland, Yorkie and maybe Scotty. If you like a non-shedding medium size look into the standard poodle. They are fantastic dogs and are not yappers. Any dog that you get though your going to have to train and that includes socialization. I can't stress that enough!

04-02-2005, 05:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
2pups622 Little Zoo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ny Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	cairnadoodle ?? ohk you should get a sheltie
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04-02-2005, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
dollface 4 Boston Terriers Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Saskatchewan Posts: 903 Rep Power: 97	Why not check out your local animal shelter if you are interested in a mixed breed, since there are both mixed and purebreds there in great need of a loving home. If you are not so worried about shedding Boston's do make wonderful lil house and traveling companions. Any dog you get it all depends how you bring them up, socializing and obedience training is the key to a well adjusted pet.
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04-02-2005, 10:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
oc_spirit Snow Girl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,612 Rep Power: 140	One thing about terriers in general is that they are very highly prey driven and even the most well trained-to-stick-around dog will happily take after a bunny hoping by, or even just wander off in search of fun if they get bored. Poodles are awesome dogs as they are very trainable, and love everyone. In a sporting trim, their fur requires minimal brushing. Shelties are also great easily-trained dogs but their coat does require quite a bit of maintanance. I must agree with everyone else and strongly advise you to stay away from people who are intentionally breeding mixed breed dogs as they are only in it for the money or to have "cute puppies". This would mean that all the proper research and know-how of whelping isn't there and the puppies might not have been raised in the best conditions with proper amounts of socialization. This in turn could mean a sick puppy, or even a puppy with behavioural problems.
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04-04-2005, 09:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kelly MUTT Lover! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NH Posts: 667 Rep Power: 93	If you DO want a cairn/poodle mix, look on petfinder, there are some homeless ones out there and just because the are "designer breeds" doesn't mean they don't need a home. Just don't go looking for a breeder as any breeders who breed mutts (which is exactly what a cairn/poodle mix is) are not good breeders at all. Petfinder though...check on there. Good luck on your dog search. Also wanted to add, check the local shelter, both of my dogs are from there and both are well behaved, trained offleash and great with other dogs. Of course offleash training requires ALOT of work, ALOT. So be careful, you can't just let a dog off and expect it to come back when called. But either petfinder or the shelter should have some smaller mixed breeds that would fit your requirements.
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