Delivering Puppies

eskilady · 04-07-2005, 01:26 PM

I just read Crossfire's article about delivering bully puppies and it was so very interesting!! I hope that it gives everyone thought before they decide to breed their precious furbabies. My daughter and I had an experience just before Christmas that almost mirrors this. My daughter has a friend who raises and shows mastiffs and had a pregnant bitch due just before Christmas. Mastiffs are not good whelpers so the owner had a date set to have a c-section and people lined up to help with the puppies. Unfortunately, mom went into labor early and no one was available to help. They were expecting 7 puppies, too many for the owner alone and the vet would have her hands busy with mom. My daughter and I went along to help (I missed my company Christmas party). Mom delivered on puppy in the waiting room of the vet's - so now the decision, should we go through the with c-section since she already delivered one naturally? It was discussed and they decided that since it could take 15 hours to deliver the puppies naturally and she might lose some in the end, they would go through with the c-section. They opened up mom and delivered 6, 7, 8, 9, oh, here's another one (10), now we're done; oh, here's another one! (11), now we're done; nope, here's one more (12). Now we are done. 12 squirming mastiff puppies - mom would never had delivered these on her own. Can you imagine 12 mastiff puppies and the owner only had one home lined up for them. She had 6 boys and 6 girls and they were all healthy! The puppies would not all have survived to be born so c-section was the best. But can you imagine, the lady had 5 adult mastiff dogs in the house already and now, 12 mastiff puppies!! That was just before Christmas - she has sold all but 2 so she is doing well.

***Cassiepeia*** · 04-08-2005, 06:43 PM

Wow that would have been a full house if she hadn't found homes for most of them (still will be if she can't find homes for the last two LOL ). Glad everything went well though, even if it didn't go quite as planned.

Cass.

Crossfire Bulldogs · 04-08-2005, 07:22 PM

tttttwelve?!? *she says with a severe studder** lol Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my lord! I had a difficult enough time with 8 and my 13 bullies and the thought of four more on top of that I think I would have for sure lost what little mind I had left! lol

Glad it all worked out well.

pinsnpugs · 11-02-2005, 11:55 AM

Cant imagine that many at once. I was beside myself when our Pug (of all breeds) gave birth to 8 both times she was bred

kazkirkpatrick · 11-02-2005, 01:44 PM

Big dogs tend to have big litters!
Rexie is from a litter of 13, and thats pretty much normal for a cane cors0 (which is also a mastiff, just a little one!)
The bigger the dog, the more babies, oh cruel world!

TribalRats · 11-02-2005, 02:08 PM

My friend and mentor who has breed Rat Terriers for many many years has one bitch who has huge litters...she is only a 12 lb dog and her second and last litter was 10. Yes 10 out of this little girl.

Shadowkins · 11-02-2005, 03:24 PM

Goodness gracious, 10 puppies for a little rat terrier! How did the poor thing walk?
When there are such large litters does the mother, more often than not, have to have a c-section? Just curious, it would seem to me that the greater the number of pups, the more stress put on the mom.

TribalRats · 11-02-2005, 03:31 PM

Well in our case the mother did just fine. She popped 'em right out one after another. She was a little on the thin side after everything was said and done and very tired how ever she is a great mom. This time (because it was her second litter) my friend had her and another female pregnant and due around the same time just in case she had another large litter. Her first litter was 9 and she had trouble nursing all of them. Luckily another of her females that had a smaller litter when she was previously bred was in the same cycle.
So when the 10 pups were born 4 were taken and given tot he other mama who had her 2 babies the day before. Lots to place however there was a decent size list and one was going to me, one to each of the studs owners and she was keeping one so that left 8 to place. All bu 2 had forever homes waiting in the wings by the time they turned 9 weeks. The other 2 were placed by 13 weeks.
Ummm I think I got off topic....sorry.

Shadowkins · 11-02-2005, 03:37 PM

Thanks, TribalRats, for the info
"She was a little on the thin side after everything was said and done "...Bet you she was thinking - finally I can see my feet.
Sorry couldn't resist that one

04-07-2005, 01:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
eskilady American Eskimo Dog lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Posts: 161 Rep Power: 69	Delivering Puppies I just read Crossfire's article about delivering bully puppies and it was so very interesting!! I hope that it gives everyone thought before they decide to breed their precious furbabies. My daughter and I had an experience just before Christmas that almost mirrors this. My daughter has a friend who raises and shows mastiffs and had a pregnant bitch due just before Christmas. Mastiffs are not good whelpers so the owner had a date set to have a c-section and people lined up to help with the puppies. Unfortunately, mom went into labor early and no one was available to help. They were expecting 7 puppies, too many for the owner alone and the vet would have her hands busy with mom. My daughter and I went along to help (I missed my company Christmas party). Mom delivered on puppy in the waiting room of the vet's - so now the decision, should we go through the with c-section since she already delivered one naturally? It was discussed and they decided that since it could take 15 hours to deliver the puppies naturally and she might lose some in the end, they would go through with the c-section. They opened up mom and delivered 6, 7, 8, 9, oh, here's another one (10), now we're done; oh, here's another one! (11), now we're done; nope, here's one more (12). Now we are done. 12 squirming mastiff puppies - mom would never had delivered these on her own. Can you imagine 12 mastiff puppies and the owner only had one home lined up for them. She had 6 boys and 6 girls and they were all healthy! The puppies would not all have survived to be born so c-section was the best. But can you imagine, the lady had 5 adult mastiff dogs in the house already and now, 12 mastiff puppies!! That was just before Christmas - she has sold all but 2 so she is doing well.
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04-08-2005, 06:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
*Cassiepeia* Chihuahua Mum Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 8,247 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 279	Wow that would have been a full house if she hadn't found homes for most of them (still will be if she can't find homes for the last two LOL ). Glad everything went well though, even if it didn't go quite as planned. Cass.
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04-08-2005, 07:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Crossfire Bulldogs Sourmug Mom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Snuggled Between The Snorts & Snores. Posts: 7,844 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 281	tttttwelve?!? she says with a severe studder* lol Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my lord! I had a difficult enough time with 8 and my 13 bullies and the thought of four more on top of that I think I would have for sure lost what little mind I had left! lol Glad it all worked out well.
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11-02-2005, 01:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
kazkirkpatrick Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 464 Rep Power: 89	Big dogs tend to have big litters! Rexie is from a litter of 13, and thats pretty much normal for a cane cors0 (which is also a mastiff, just a little one!) The bigger the dog, the more babies, oh cruel world!
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11-02-2005, 02:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
TribalRats Take Responsibility Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 3,327 Rep Power: 141	My friend and mentor who has breed Rat Terriers for many many years has one bitch who has huge litters...she is only a 12 lb dog and her second and last litter was 10. Yes 10 out of this little girl.
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11-02-2005, 11:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
pinsnpugs Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Cant imagine that many at once. I was beside myself when our Pug (of all breeds) gave birth to 8 both times she was bred

11-02-2005, 03:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Shadowkins Shadowkins Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 2,726 Rep Power: 125	Goodness gracious, 10 puppies for a little rat terrier! How did the poor thing walk? When there are such large litters does the mother, more often than not, have to have a c-section? Just curious, it would seem to me that the greater the number of pups, the more stress put on the mom.

11-02-2005, 03:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
TribalRats Take Responsibility Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 3,327 Rep Power: 141	Well in our case the mother did just fine. She popped 'em right out one after another. She was a little on the thin side after everything was said and done and very tired how ever she is a great mom. This time (because it was her second litter) my friend had her and another female pregnant and due around the same time just in case she had another large litter. Her first litter was 9 and she had trouble nursing all of them. Luckily another of her females that had a smaller litter when she was previously bred was in the same cycle. So when the 10 pups were born 4 were taken and given tot he other mama who had her 2 babies the day before. Lots to place however there was a decent size list and one was going to me, one to each of the studs owners and she was keeping one so that left 8 to place. All bu 2 had forever homes waiting in the wings by the time they turned 9 weeks. The other 2 were placed by 13 weeks. Ummm I think I got off topic....sorry.
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11-02-2005, 03:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Shadowkins Shadowkins Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 2,726 Rep Power: 125	Thanks, TribalRats, for the info "She was a little on the thin side after everything was said and done "...Bet you she was thinking - finally I can see my feet. Sorry couldn't resist that one

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