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Old 01-06-2005, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking German Shepherd Owner's

Just wonder how many German Shepherd owner's we have on the board???? And how long have you owned German Shepherds???
My 1st dog was a female Irish Setter, So I'd have to say I've had Shepherds for more then 28 yrs...........
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have a purebred GSD but a mix.
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Old 01-06-2005, 09:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have a mix as well.. but my mom used to breed and raise GSD's.. not sure for how long, but I can ask her if you'd like.

The one I always heard about was Gypsy. She was a black and silver coated GSD that saved my mom from getting raped.
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Old 01-07-2005, 07:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Icey, what a wonderful dog that was!


G3...I use to have a GSD before Bonnie and an adopted one before that. They were both wonderful, wonderful dogs!!!!!!!!!!!

My Dad had GSDs...one after another all growing up. He told me some cute stories about some of his....if you like to hear stories.

One was named Hilda and in the olden days my Grandma lived in a farm house where the Coca Cola man (I think it was Coca Cola) would bring a wooden case of bottles to deliver and he'd walk right on into the vestibule and go down to the basement to set them there. Then he'd take away the empties. Hilda greeted him nicely when he brought the full bottles. But when he would attempt to leave with the empty bottles, she would gently hang onto his sleeve and not let him out. She wasn't aggressive. She just stood there holding his sleeve until he called up the stairs to my Grandma to call Hilda. LOL. Love that story.

Another one, one of the many Fritz's, when the family was eating ice cream cones, would be given one also. He lay down on the floor and held the cone between his paws and would lick the ice cream, just like people do, rather than gobble it all down at once. He savored it and made it last.

Another story is that when my parents would go to the Jersey shore for the day, they put my older sister, when she was a baby in a playpen up by the consession stands in the shade while they sat down closer to the water in the sun. This was a long time ago and there wasn't the worry about bad guys and kidnapping. (my sisters even older than I. She's 56) Anyhow, their GSD would lie down right next to the playpen and not leave while the baby slept. If anyone came too near, he'd warn them off. Then when she would wake, he ran a little bit away toward my folks and barked and barked and they'd come running to get the baby. LOL. (wouldn't do that these days)
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Old 01-07-2005, 11:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have a GSD, I have just completed Shutzhund 1 with him and having a time out before we start training again ready for stage 2 this Autumn, or as you guys say fall

He is the most loyal, faithfull and friendly dog I have ever known with a learning capacity that leaves other breeds standing.
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Old 01-10-2005, 01:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yupper's.......I have to agree!!! Shepherds are very smart..........for those of you with 100% German Shepherds........I wanted to ask you if you thought there was any differance in the "American" verse's the "Eupeaon" German Shepherd's??...........I've been told that the American is the shorter haired, and the Eupeaon longer haired...........I have one of each........and I have found that the Eupeaon breed of Shepherds seems to be easier going, more trainable, etc............has anyone else found this to be true???
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I don't own a 100% shepherd as I said, but I heard something similar to that.. the german ones tend to have a darker coat and the "American" bred sheps have a lighter coat.
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Old 01-10-2005, 06:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sorry to have to correct you, but no - not true...the European breed do come in all different color's, as do the American's...it's the white shepherds over in Europe that they do not exknowage.....its more in the texture and length of their coats........the head is just a tiny-bit different (you'd really have to know your Shepherd's in order to tell the differance) - The American's seem to be a little taller too.......their temperment is like night and day..........and training seem's to be easier with the Eupeaon.........but, thats just my opinion...(as far as the training goes)........I'm totally sold on the European
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Old 01-11-2005, 09:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The difference in the European and American GSD is that the back slope between the withers and hind quaters has been exagerated a lot more in the American version.

The promenant colours in the European version are Black and Tan, or Black and Yellow or Pure Black. You can get White GSDs in fact they are very popular. however, you can't enter them in competitons and I don't think you can get papers for them (not sure on that though). This is because they are considered albinos and any albino is a flaw in the breed as far as the DSV (Deutsche Schäferhund Verein) are concerned.
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Old 01-11-2005, 09:10 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I actually saw where they are trying to get the white dog to be a seperate breed, swiss sheperd or something, they took a line from an american white dog and now have a small lineage of those dogs and give it a different name, i'll look for the link that can give you more specifics

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Oh i forgot to add. There is the Alt Deutsche Schäferhund (Old German Shepheard Dog) and the normal GSD. The Alt Deutsche Schäferhund are the long haired variety. Perhaps this is what your thinking of. I would love one of them in pure black, but convincing my wife that we need one is a different story
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There are more than a few differences between German and American GSD's. IMO the American's aren't doing much to protect the breed and let anybody breed anything. The quality of dog in Germany is quite a bit higher because although they have a division among their lines of Working and Show, they at least have to show a workable dog before they breed it, anybody with two dogs in America can and does breed them. THe biggest differences i see are in the US the dogs are bred too big, not much for drives and too much angulation in the rear quarters. I recently saw a male at an agility club that was way overwieght to be doing agility, and it was hunched up looking like it had to crap every step it took. I can't imagine having a dog move like that and think its "pretty" but i'm pretty biased in this sense. Here are a few links that go into detail and of the american european split, and show and working split. Again, these are mostly generalizations, but i find them to be rather good ones because most dogs i've seen fit the bill



http://www.dogstuff.info/gsd_history.html

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Its very interesting how much one breed has changed in such few years.

I live in Germany and if you look at the first link you gave I would say that 99% of the dogs still have the structure of Bernd vom Lierberg, the 3rd picture down. It is also very true what you say about there been a divided line between show and working dogs. Working dogs been the superior (but i would say that, since im heavly into schutzhund training).

Actually once you complete all 3 stages of the schutzhund training you can request a visit from the pedigree club to access your dog. It will be awarded either KK1 or KK2. KK1 is Highly recommended for breeding KK2 is recommended for breeding. They are very strickt over this if they feel the dog doesn't make the grade you get sent away with nothing. The KK1 and KK2 are recorded on the dogs pedigree papers.

Thiere isnt much point in doing this with my dog since he no longer has his manhood. LOL
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It is also very true what you say about there been a divided line between show and working dogs. Working dogs been the superior (but i would say that, since im heavly into schutzhund training).
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Wink White GSD!!!!

White German Sheperds, White Sheperds, American Candian White Sheperds and since 1 januar 2003 the new name White Swiss Sheperd dogs are many names for I and the same dog,short and longcoated. This dogs are not albinos,the nose,lips and nails must be so dark wie possibel black are perfect the eyes must be dark brown.The coat must be pure white without wildcolor. Thats is the ideal, but nobody is perfect.The dogs are accepted in the FCI and have papers. The character is a little more sensitive as the colored GSD, but a shy dog are not good.In my first litter 1 male pup are going to France and he lives as studdog and working dog by the K9 group,in the years '90.
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