Mini or Standard?

knewlon · 10-23-2006, 12:14 PM

I have a 14 week old dachshund and I am not sure if he is a mini or a standard. My vet said he was very small but the person I purchased him from said they thought he was standard. He weighs a little over 3 pounds and is still very young. Does anyone know how I could distinguish him or will I have to wait to see how big he will get when he is full grown?

SpringerLover · 10-23-2006, 01:07 PM

what were his parents?

Novel · 10-23-2006, 04:37 PM

His parents size will determine his size.
From your description I'm assuming you bought him at a pet store or other unreputable and unethical person, so, you may just have to wait and see. That's the breaks when you buy a puppy like that.
Good Luck in the future.

Shadowkins · 10-23-2006, 04:40 PM

Yup! I'm afraid the only real way to tell is to see his parents or siblings from another litter.
Mini or not , your puppy is just to cute...what a little face. Make sure you post more pics, please!!!

roman · 10-23-2006, 05:24 PM

is that your dog in your avatar

if it is then that's not a dachshund...it's a cavalier king charles spaniel

Shadowkins · 10-23-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by roman

is that your dog in your avatar

if it is then that's not a dachshund...it's a cavalier king charles spaniel

Well it does look a bit like one but there are long haired dachshund too.

IceyBlueSibes · 10-23-2006, 08:12 PM

I agree, whatever the parents were will determine the size of your puppy.

roman - I have to agree with shadow. It DOES in fact look like a cavy, but there are long haired doxies, and being as small as he is makes him seem even less doxie-like.

I'd LOVE to see more pictures too!

Novel · 10-23-2006, 08:26 PM

I think the shorter muzzle makes him look like a spaniel, vs. the long houndy muzzle of a doxie...

I know you've all heard it before, but that's why we have breed standards and we test breeding animals to that standard in shows... Sigh.

Spiritus · 10-23-2006, 10:28 PM

The dog in the avatar definitely looks like a long haired dachsie - maybe a bit short in the nose, but still a dachsie. I owned one once... for about three weeks. LOL.

Even if you knew the parents, there is a chance that the pup could be something other. Ie. If the parents are standards, the pup could be a mini, and vice versa. I have a friend who breeds mini-longs, and one of her boys from her definitely mini litter is very definitely a standard. Only time will tell for your little one.

Barrett · 10-24-2006, 12:29 AM

My dachshund Bailey was 3 pounds at 10 weeks old and she is now full grown at 12 pounds and perfect weight for her size. She is over the weight limit for a mini but under the weight limit for a standard so I guess she is a tweeny. My other dachshund, Lucy, was less than 2 pounds at 10 weeks and is full grown at 7 pounds. Harley was less than 2 pounds at 10 weeks and was as tiny as could be but she is full grown at 10 pounds. You won't really know what the end weight will be until around 11 months but I would say your pup is a minature or in between. He is sure a cutey pie.

Novel · 10-24-2006, 06:34 AM

How do breeders register dogs of that breed? Since they are mini or standard by their physical dimensions, how does a breeder decide?

Spiritus · 10-24-2006, 09:56 AM

In Canada, only mini's can be bred to mini's and only standards to standards. Smooths can only be bred to smooths, wire to wire, long haired to long haired. So, in my friend's case, he HAD to be registered as a mini-long haired, but could not be shown once he went oversized in the mini category. I don't think it's the same in the US. It might be, but I'm not sure.

Novel · 10-24-2006, 11:54 AM

Ah ha.. Thanks Spiritus! I'll have to check AKC for the US, but I bet it's similar.

knewlon · 10-24-2006, 01:09 PM

Well, this pup was my first pet purchase. He was for my daughter who just turned 2. When I bought him I was naive in taking the pet stores word when they said he had papers and they would send them to me in 4 weeks (awaiting the breeder to send them to the store) Also she said that her husband saw the parents and they were standard long hairs. I let the four weeks go by and the pet store was shut down. It was either a coinsidence or I got had! But we love him regardless! Oh, is snout and ears have definately took off in size so he's looking more like a doxie. I really need to update his pic...but this one is just too cute. So it could be possible for him to be just in between an mini and standard? I have definately learned my lesson and will never do business with a pet store again. Right now he looks just like Barrett's doxie Bailey but with wavy ears the rest of his coat is still smooth. Thanks for all your comments it helped a lot!

knewlon · 10-24-2006, 01:55 PM

Here is a more recent pic of Milo what do you think he would be?

10-23-2006, 12:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
knewlon Milo's World Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	Mini or Standard? I have a 14 week old dachshund and I am not sure if he is a mini or a standard. My vet said he was very small but the person I purchased him from said they thought he was standard. He weighs a little over 3 pounds and is still very young. Does anyone know how I could distinguish him or will I have to wait to see how big he will get when he is full grown?

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10-23-2006, 04:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,991 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	His parents size will determine his size. From your description I'm assuming you bought him at a pet store or other unreputable and unethical person, so, you may just have to wait and see. That's the breaks when you buy a puppy like that. Good Luck in the future.
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10-23-2006, 04:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Shadowkins Shadowkins Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 2,726 Rep Power: 129	Yup! I'm afraid the only real way to tell is to see his parents or siblings from another litter. Mini or not , your puppy is just to cute...what a little face. Make sure you post more pics, please!!!
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roman Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 71	is that your dog in your avatar if it is then that's not a dachshund...it's a cavalier king charles spaniel
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IceyBlueSibes Eyes = Mirror to the soul Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jupiter, Fla. Posts: 7,757 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 273	I agree, whatever the parents were will determine the size of your puppy. roman - I have to agree with shadow. It DOES in fact look like a cavy, but there are long haired doxies, and being as small as he is makes him seem even less doxie-like. I'd LOVE to see more pictures too!
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10-23-2006, 08:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,991 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	I think the shorter muzzle makes him look like a spaniel, vs. the long houndy muzzle of a doxie... I know you've all heard it before, but that's why we have breed standards and we test breeding animals to that standard in shows... Sigh.
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10-23-2006, 10:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Spiritus Trust the Force... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 513 Rep Power: 81	The dog in the avatar definitely looks like a long haired dachsie - maybe a bit short in the nose, but still a dachsie. I owned one once... for about three weeks. LOL. Even if you knew the parents, there is a chance that the pup could be something other. Ie. If the parents are standards, the pup could be a mini, and vice versa. I have a friend who breeds mini-longs, and one of her boys from her definitely mini litter is very definitely a standard. Only time will tell for your little one.
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10-24-2006, 12:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
Barrett dachshund Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 2,758 Rep Power: 157	My dachshund Bailey was 3 pounds at 10 weeks old and she is now full grown at 12 pounds and perfect weight for her size. She is over the weight limit for a mini but under the weight limit for a standard so I guess she is a tweeny. My other dachshund, Lucy, was less than 2 pounds at 10 weeks and is full grown at 7 pounds. Harley was less than 2 pounds at 10 weeks and was as tiny as could be but she is full grown at 10 pounds. You won't really know what the end weight will be until around 11 months but I would say your pup is a minature or in between. He is sure a cutey pie.
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10-24-2006, 06:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,991 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	How do breeders register dogs of that breed? Since they are mini or standard by their physical dimensions, how does a breeder decide?
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10-24-2006, 09:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
Spiritus Trust the Force... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 513 Rep Power: 81	In Canada, only mini's can be bred to mini's and only standards to standards. Smooths can only be bred to smooths, wire to wire, long haired to long haired. So, in my friend's case, he HAD to be registered as a mini-long haired, but could not be shown once he went oversized in the mini category. I don't think it's the same in the US. It might be, but I'm not sure.
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10-24-2006, 11:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
Novel Mush Face Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 4,991 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 220	Ah ha.. Thanks Spiritus! I'll have to check AKC for the US, but I bet it's similar.
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10-24-2006, 01:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
knewlon Milo's World Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	Well, this pup was my first pet purchase. He was for my daughter who just turned 2. When I bought him I was naive in taking the pet stores word when they said he had papers and they would send them to me in 4 weeks (awaiting the breeder to send them to the store) Also she said that her husband saw the parents and they were standard long hairs. I let the four weeks go by and the pet store was shut down. It was either a coinsidence or I got had! But we love him regardless! Oh, is snout and ears have definately took off in size so he's looking more like a doxie. I really need to update his pic...but this one is just too cute. So it could be possible for him to be just in between an mini and standard? I have definately learned my lesson and will never do business with a pet store again. Right now he looks just like Barrett's doxie Bailey but with wavy ears the rest of his coat is still smooth. Thanks for all your comments it helped a lot!

10-24-2006, 01:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
knewlon Milo's World Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	Here is a more recent pic of Milo what do you think he would be?

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