Sharpei/pug mix

ploudermilk · 02-26-2005, 09:59 PM

Hello to all....my first post....I just wish it were under happier circumstances.... I have a dog that is a sharpei/pug mix....in other words he is known as an oripei.....My cute, and sweet oripei suffered 4 grand mal seizures back to back in the time frame of about an hour...

I've been reading up on the seizures and have come across a scary thing known as Pug Dog Encephalitis (PDE) I don't know if this for sure what it is, but it has me scared nonetheless. If anyone out there has been thru this and can give me some advice it would greatly be appreciated.....

hugs, and thanks in advance,

Paula

WingedFoal · 02-26-2005, 10:13 PM

Have you taken your dog to a vet? That doesn't sound good at all. I don't know anything about PDE, but I would DEFINITELY get that checked out, if you haven't already.

ploudermilk · 02-26-2005, 10:16 PM

yes he is at the vet, and has been since the last siezure...he is spending the night there so they can keep an eye on him....

***Cassiepeia*** · 02-26-2005, 10:18 PM

Firstly, welcome to Global Paw.

I know you'll love it here, it's a wonderful community.

There is another member here, Pugdawg, who has 3 of the cute lil' guys (pugs) and may know something about PDE.

Cass.

WingedFoal · 02-26-2005, 10:19 PM

Oooohh I see. Well good.... Sorry I just had to ask, some people don't take them to the vet's right away, they just sit and wonder what it is and not rush them to a doc

.

Hmm but I still don't have a clue.... I'm sure someone can help though.

Pugdawg1 · 02-26-2005, 10:22 PM

PDE (Pug Dog Encephalitis) isn't a very common thing, thankfully, although lately I hear of it more. It seems to stick to mostly the younger pugs.. once the pug is over roughly 3 years of age, the chance of it having PDE is dramatically lowered. Important thing.. seizures don't always mean PDE. Seizures can be caused by a variety of things.

My suggestion for some online research and a good place to start.. is please visit www.pugvillage.com A few members have lost their pugs to PDE and so, pugvillage is trying to compile information on this horrible thing. Do a search of the forum there and you'll come up with many posts regarding PDE.. or simply post your concern, and there will be people to help you.
Sorry you are going through this rough time. PLEASE post an update about your dog when you find out more about what is going on.

WingedFoal · 02-26-2005, 10:43 PM

Oh yes, please keep us posted on what's going on. And good luck, I hope to goodness your baby gets better very soon.

poodlesmom · 02-27-2005, 07:36 AM

I'm sorry your furpal is having a problem. I hope the vet is able to find the cause & help control the seizures.

ploudermilk · 02-27-2005, 10:52 PM

Update.....He had a seizure this morning and was given a dose of phenobarbital.......he had another seizure this evening (about 12 hours later) so now emergency vet has him on a phenobarb drip. (he has spent the weekend at the emergency vet clinic under a seizure watch)

Emailed a leading vet doc on PED....and have found out that it only affects the pure bred pugs......however learned of another kind of encephalitus that seems to affect toy breeds.....I don't think this is the case with my little guy, but I want to learn all I can. Truly at this point I'm hoping that it's just epilepsy and can be managed with medication...

Keep your fingers and toes crossed for my little guy...

Thanks Pugmom for the link.....

I'll keep you posted on any new developements.

WingedFoal · 02-28-2005, 09:30 AM

I am definitely keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you. I know it has to be rough on you, especially with not knowing what exactly is going on! Your pup is very lucky to have such a caring and devoted mom.

ploudermilk · 03-04-2005, 09:19 PM

Update....almost a week tomorrow with no siezures. "Doc" (my little guy's name...yes he is named after the gunslinger) has been on phenobarb the entire time. My SO and I are giving him a "barbie" (as I've now taken to calling them) every 12 hours. So far so good...

He moved out of the emergency vet Monday morning to his regular vet the very same day for testing and observation. So far as his lab work that has come back...no encephalitus....no liver disease or need for a liver shunt....(I'm still educating myself on that particular aspect) ....so chances are it is probably epilepsy.. which can be managed by medication...just which medication is the most pressing point to me right now. The phenobarbital does seem to be working, but it has some interesting side effects...inasmuch that "doc" seems to be stoned out of his gourd, pacing and ravenously hungry for any food he can sniff out. The first night he came home was the worst by far in that he was circling and pacing all night long....(but that could be a result of the drug loading) the next night ...not quite so bad.

Hopefully in the days and weeks ahead all will go well. I will keep ya posted

Rest assured.... Doc is in good company as far as moms who care.....he has a GSD sister with megaesphagous who was written off by vets, and has managed to come far and do well in the past year....but that's another story for another day.

Hugs, and thanks to all who have given support, and advice.

Paula

Pugdawg1 · 03-04-2005, 10:14 PM

Thank you so much for the update. I am glad to hear that Doc is doing better, I hope he continues to do well.

I am a western girl, and love western history, so I think Doc is a great name!

WingedFoal · 03-06-2005, 08:03 AM

Oh I'm so happy Doc is doing better.... Thank you for keeping us posted!

poodlesmom · 03-06-2005, 08:55 AM

Thanks for the update & I'm glad the meds are helping Doc.

You may find once his dosage is at the correct level his system will get used to it and the side effects will diminish. A friend's little chi experienced the same reaction for a while and that is what they found.

Kelly · 03-07-2005, 06:25 PM

Awww...what a good mom you are. I am happy your lil man is doing better. I want to see pics as soon as you can get some. He sounds like an interesting mix.

02-26-2005, 09:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
ploudermilk Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 69	Sharpei/pug mix Hello to all....my first post....I just wish it were under happier circumstances.... I have a dog that is a sharpei/pug mix....in other words he is known as an oripei.....My cute, and sweet oripei suffered 4 grand mal seizures back to back in the time frame of about an hour... I've been reading up on the seizures and have come across a scary thing known as Pug Dog Encephalitis (PDE) I don't know if this for sure what it is, but it has me scared nonetheless. If anyone out there has been thru this and can give me some advice it would greatly be appreciated..... hugs, and thanks in advance, Paula
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02-26-2005, 10:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
WingedFoal Bostons Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 96	Have you taken your dog to a vet? That doesn't sound good at all. I don't know anything about PDE, but I would DEFINITELY get that checked out, if you haven't already.
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02-26-2005, 10:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
ploudermilk Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 69	yes he is at the vet, and has been since the last siezure...he is spending the night there so they can keep an eye on him....
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02-26-2005, 10:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
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02-26-2005, 10:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
WingedFoal Bostons Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 96	Oooohh I see. Well good.... Sorry I just had to ask, some people don't take them to the vet's right away, they just sit and wonder what it is and not rush them to a doc . Hmm but I still don't have a clue.... I'm sure someone can help though.
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02-26-2005, 10:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pugdawg1 Pug Mom Join Date: May 2004 Location: Elko, Nevada Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 135	PDE (Pug Dog Encephalitis) isn't a very common thing, thankfully, although lately I hear of it more. It seems to stick to mostly the younger pugs.. once the pug is over roughly 3 years of age, the chance of it having PDE is dramatically lowered. Important thing.. seizures don't always mean PDE. Seizures can be caused by a variety of things. My suggestion for some online research and a good place to start.. is please visit www.pugvillage.com A few members have lost their pugs to PDE and so, pugvillage is trying to compile information on this horrible thing. Do a search of the forum there and you'll come up with many posts regarding PDE.. or simply post your concern, and there will be people to help you. Sorry you are going through this rough time. PLEASE post an update about your dog when you find out more about what is going on.
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02-26-2005, 10:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
WingedFoal Bostons Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 96	Oh yes, please keep us posted on what's going on. And good luck, I hope to goodness your baby gets better very soon.
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02-27-2005, 07:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
poodlesmom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: upstate NY Posts: 1,389 Rep Power: 111	I'm sorry your furpal is having a problem. I hope the vet is able to find the cause & help control the seizures.

02-27-2005, 10:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
ploudermilk Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 69	Update.....He had a seizure this morning and was given a dose of phenobarbital.......he had another seizure this evening (about 12 hours later) so now emergency vet has him on a phenobarb drip. (he has spent the weekend at the emergency vet clinic under a seizure watch) Emailed a leading vet doc on PED....and have found out that it only affects the pure bred pugs......however learned of another kind of encephalitus that seems to affect toy breeds.....I don't think this is the case with my little guy, but I want to learn all I can. Truly at this point I'm hoping that it's just epilepsy and can be managed with medication... Keep your fingers and toes crossed for my little guy... Thanks Pugmom for the link..... I'll keep you posted on any new developements.
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02-28-2005, 09:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
WingedFoal Bostons Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 96	I am definitely keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you. I know it has to be rough on you, especially with not knowing what exactly is going on! Your pup is very lucky to have such a caring and devoted mom.
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03-04-2005, 09:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
ploudermilk Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 69	Update....almost a week tomorrow with no siezures. "Doc" (my little guy's name...yes he is named after the gunslinger) has been on phenobarb the entire time. My SO and I are giving him a "barbie" (as I've now taken to calling them) every 12 hours. So far so good... He moved out of the emergency vet Monday morning to his regular vet the very same day for testing and observation. So far as his lab work that has come back...no encephalitus....no liver disease or need for a liver shunt....(I'm still educating myself on that particular aspect) ....so chances are it is probably epilepsy.. which can be managed by medication...just which medication is the most pressing point to me right now. The phenobarbital does seem to be working, but it has some interesting side effects...inasmuch that "doc" seems to be stoned out of his gourd, pacing and ravenously hungry for any food he can sniff out. The first night he came home was the worst by far in that he was circling and pacing all night long....(but that could be a result of the drug loading) the next night ...not quite so bad. Hopefully in the days and weeks ahead all will go well. I will keep ya posted Rest assured.... Doc is in good company as far as moms who care.....he has a GSD sister with megaesphagous who was written off by vets, and has managed to come far and do well in the past year....but that's another story for another day. Hugs, and thanks to all who have given support, and advice. Paula
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03-04-2005, 10:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pugdawg1 Pug Mom Join Date: May 2004 Location: Elko, Nevada Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 135	Thank you so much for the update. I am glad to hear that Doc is doing better, I hope he continues to do well. I am a western girl, and love western history, so I think Doc is a great name!
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03-06-2005, 08:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
WingedFoal Bostons Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 96	Oh I'm so happy Doc is doing better.... Thank you for keeping us posted!
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03-06-2005, 08:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
poodlesmom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: upstate NY Posts: 1,389 Rep Power: 111	Thanks for the update & I'm glad the meds are helping Doc. You may find once his dosage is at the correct level his system will get used to it and the side effects will diminish. A friend's little chi experienced the same reaction for a while and that is what they found.

03-07-2005, 06:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kelly MUTT Lover! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NH Posts: 667 Rep Power: 97	Awww...what a good mom you are. I am happy your lil man is doing better. I want to see pics as soon as you can get some. He sounds like an interesting mix.
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