When did this happen? 5 lab colors

[sheka]

My friend is looking for a lab and we were browsing breeders in our area, so we were filling out a form to get contacted and in one of the forms where it said Color of Lab you are interested in. There where 5 CHOICES! I knew about black,chocolat, and yellow,but there was also FOX RED AND SILVER?!? WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?! Lol We canceled the form because the AKC sais there are only 3 colors, but isnt that weird? am i like out of the loop, do pomeranians come in purple now, how about a MAJENTA/ORANGE dalmatian, that would be cool Lol.
has any1 else seen these 2 extra lab colors?

[Cassiepeia]

I didn't know they were claiming "red fox" as a new colour now, but it's just another shade of "yellow". It's perfectly normal for them. In fact I think the standard actually says that 'Yellow' can come in shades from fox red to light cream.

Silver labs, unfortunately, have been around for a while. Most think they're mixes, some think it's a recessive colour. Either way it's backyard breeders and puppymills who breed this colour just to make money from ignorant buyers.

We've had a thread on this in the past ---> http://www.globalpaw.com/showthread....ht=silver+labs (Silver Labs????) .

Cass.

[Novel]

Just to add my 2 cents.
Red is actually yellow, and not favored by show breeders, and silver is a faded chocolate (most claim) and registered as such.
A breeder that is highlighting either of these colors would not be seen as favorable in my eyes.

[LVT]

FYI: purebred Labs can also be black and tan. Recessive.

[PawNclaws]

Yeah there is a thred on this already, but as stated labs come in 3 colors, Black(all black), Chlt(light to dark) and Yellow(ranging from Fox-Red to Light Cream.. Actually I believe Fox Reds have been produced by some great kennels Novel, its just a rare sight to see a red in the ring since it seems more and more are being produced by "field" type labs. In Daisys pedigree her gr. sire is a fox red... Its just another lab color but not very common in the ring(altho it is very pretty).. Now silver, gosh, that color I do belive is just a money maker.. I really don't see any labs with correct conformation in the "silver" color, many have wrong head types(seem more rounded)- curl in the tail, low tail set , long snout, etc.. Just doesn't seem like the silver breeders(all whom I have came across) have the Labradors best interest in mind, very little(if any at all) do health testing, look at pedigrees, or do any thing but state faults calims.. I would run from any person claiming to sell a "rare" lab color- especially if they claim silver and fox reds are rare(goes for "polar" white too, its just a very light shade of yellow).. If you click my siggy , it links to a fact page on the silver color.
Yes some labs do have recessive genes and some lab pups are born with tan , white, or blk patches on them- its not to uncommom.. Even well bred lab pups could get this, but like the silver, no pup with mismarks should be priced higher- its out of standard..

[briarlow]

If you look at the websites of some of these "supposed" labs they've got heads that look suspiciously like Wiemeraner's!

[12weimgirl]

I have heard of Fox Red labs but not Silver?

[12weimgirl]

Originally Posted by LVT

FYI: purebred Labs can also be black and tan. Recessive.

FYI: Since when?? ~12weimgirl~

[PawNclaws]

FYI: Since when?? ~12weimgirl~

Here is the link to Wood Havens fact page about the common mismarks in Labs, it has pictures too..
Commom Mismarks In Labrador Retrievers

[DLR-LabLover]

I didn't look at the date on the thread and didn't read the other posts, so forgive me for anything I may say that's already been posted.

There are only THREE recognized colors for Labs. Yellow, Chocolate and Black. This "fox red" color is on the darker end of the yellow spectrum and is registered as yellow. "White" is also a light yellow. So called "silvers" are a genetic abnormality and being listed as chocolate. The silvers are believed to have been crossed with a Weimeraner at some point in the past and were bred down to keep the color but not the looks.

People are trying to cash in on "new" colors. This is why when you buy a dog you should know all about the breed before doing so. Uninformed buyers can be duped out of their money for something that doesn't exist and will be sorely disappointed when they find out they can't register a dog as the color they were told.

Originally Posted by PawNclaws

Here is the link to Wood Havens fact page about the common mismarks in Labs, it has pictures too..
Commom Mismarks In Labrador Retrievers

These are genetic mismarks, not that common (except for some white on chest or feet), and not bred for that coloring. Anyone trying to breed a Lab for a genetic mismark is not a very good breeder IMO. There are 3 distinct colors to the breed standard and that is what's looked for. You definitely will NOT be able to show a Lab that has a genetic color abnormality.

We also don't know how many years apart, from what states, breeders, or lines these mismarked Labs came from that are shown on Woodhavens site. They aren't Woodhaven Labs.

Labs having Tan Points

Early breeding records indicate that a Labrador puppy with tan points on the ears, muzzle, and above the eyes (as found in the Doberman and Rottweiler) would occasionally be whelped to pure-bred Labrador parents. Breeders attributed this to previous interbreeding of Labradors with Gordon Setters during the early history of the breed. Because this trait was considered undesirable as a characteristic of the breed, breeders chose not to breed individuals expressing the trait in hopes of reducing frequency of its expression in future offspring.

http://www.labbies.com/genetics2.htm#Black&Tan

Also explains brindling, silver and white spots.