Jack Russells!!

kerriebeth21 · 09-10-2004, 08:59 PM

That's right JACK RUSSELLS! lol Not Parson Russells. What the heck is with the name change? I actually know why AKC changed the name of this breed. It's because of the breed registering group the JRTCA. That club is against the AKC...hence the AKC changing the name of the breed!

Anywho...
Jack Russells!! Click the link in my siggie to see pictures of Daisy! My JRT! I got her as a "gift" from my mother...whom knows the breeder personally! This breeder, Michelle Ward of Little Eden Working JRT's...is one of THE best JRT breeders in this country! She has Champions all over the country and Canada. There is a link to her site on my dog page as well. ENJOY!

gaddylovesdogs · 10-02-2004, 02:32 PM

You might know that I'm a Jack lover

They're amazing dogs.......hyper and smart, and ADORABLE! If you want a small "guard" dog, JRT are pretty protective.

JRT lover.

flyndog · 10-03-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kerriebeth21

[font=Times New Roman][color=DarkSlateBlue][i]That's right JACK RUSSELLS! lol Not Parson Russells. What the heck is with the name change?

Kerribeth, thanks for the info. That name change happened a year or two ago, didn't it? The JRT is a recently recognized breed, even in England. The Parsons has generally been accepted worldwide as the original type. I thought the name change was a good idea. Just curious - as a JRT owner (or do you have a Parsons?), why don't you like the change?
Kit

***Carrie*** · 10-03-2004, 10:12 PM

The Parsons has generally been accepted worldwide as the original type.[u][b]

Yup....we Americans already have enough of a bad reputation world wide for insisting on everything and everyone conforming to our ways when we are in THEIR countries. So, I guess for once, if worldwide a dog breed is called one thing and we're in the minority, it won't hurt to conform to the majority. Anyhow, a rose by any other name is still a rose. LOL.

flyndog · 10-03-2004, 10:17 PM

A Jack by another name is still a Jack (I guess). You've got to have a standard for the show ring so you can compare apples with apples. Our JRTs come in all sizes and shapes.

***Carrie*** · 10-03-2004, 10:27 PM

Right on.

ChiChi · 01-22-2005, 06:18 PM

any other info on jacks???? are they still recognized by the AKC, my sister rele wants one and my mom is looking into it, my sister wants a registerd male, so she can do Jr. showsmanship......but will the two males (if we get one) get along???? also any websites would be greatly appreciated!

sheltiepups · 01-22-2005, 06:27 PM

Chichi, as long as the males are introduced right I do not see a problem with it. But there might be. Just be careful about it. Also it’s easier if they are both neutered, but if your sister is going to show in Jr. then the JRT cannot be. Anyway good luck with whatever kind of dog you get.

ChiChi · 01-22-2005, 06:29 PM

Brody will be neutered VERY SOON! but yea they cant be neutered if shown!

sheltiepups · 01-22-2005, 06:33 PM

alright cool. Did you check the AKC site for info on the JRT?

ChiChi · 01-22-2005, 06:35 PM

yes i did but i didnt kno that it was the parson now! so i will help my sister with that...

BellFounder · 01-23-2005, 10:02 AM

The jack russell terrier and parsons jack russell terrier are two separate entities in most countries. The US is simply falling in line with other countries. The Parsons Jack russell terrier is the only type recognised as a "breed" by the kennel club in most countries. The parsons is the long-legged wire-coated variety (some smooth coats exist but these are in the minority).
The "football dog" short legged jack russell is really just a "mutt" in most places as their are extremely few dogs registered in any way and virtually none that there is any clue what is in them for more than 2-3 generations. This type of dog is merely somebodies idea of a jack russell mostly bred with next-doors dog that also resembles a jack russell.
There are moves afoot in the UK to provide a kennel club registery for short-legged jack russells but only the wire-coated and straight-legged variety. The horrid deformed queen anne legs seen on the vast majority of smooth-coated jack russells will exclude a dog from registration.

ChiChi · 01-23-2005, 10:30 AM

SO wat ur saying is that jacks are mutts and Parsons are the only ones recognized? if that is wat u mean okay i get! lol

JackLover · 06-17-2005, 02:32 PM

Bell Founder said it very well, Parsons are the orignail breed JRT's where bred from Parsons but bred to be a smaller dog, for ratting and going down rabbit holes, the JRT is bred for length rather than height, where as the Parsons should be the same height as length, they are both georgeous dogs. I have one of each! The JRT is usually more of a family dog, where as the Parson is more of a working dog, and have an even greater energy than the JRT (if thats possiable) Even though the JRT cannot be regestered they should still comply to the breed standered of the Parson the only difference is the height/length

***Cassiepeia*** · 06-18-2005, 06:54 PM

Both JRT & PRT are able to be registered and shown here in Australia.

But yep..they're seperate breeds.
My grandfather had one, they're fantastic dogs.

Cass.

09-10-2004, 08:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
kerriebeth21 New Ridgeback Mom! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 422 Rep Power: 87	Jack Russells!! That's right JACK RUSSELLS! lol Not Parson Russells. What the heck is with the name change? I actually know why AKC changed the name of this breed. It's because of the breed registering group the JRTCA. That club is against the AKC...hence the AKC changing the name of the breed! Anywho... Jack Russells!! Click the link in my siggie to see pictures of Daisy! My JRT! I got her as a "gift" from my mother...whom knows the breeder personally! This breeder, Michelle Ward of Little Eden Working JRT's...is one of THE best JRT breeders in this country! She has Champions all over the country and Canada. There is a link to her site on my dog page as well. ENJOY!
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10-02-2004, 02:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
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10-03-2004, 10:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
flyndog Unleash The Possibilities Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Marfa, TX Posts: 3,969 Rep Power: 183	A Jack by another name is still a Jack (I guess). You've got to have a standard for the show ring so you can compare apples with apples. Our JRTs come in all sizes and shapes.
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01-22-2005, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChiChi Sheltie Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina YEEHAW! Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 107	any other info on jacks???? are they still recognized by the AKC, my sister rele wants one and my mom is looking into it, my sister wants a registerd male, so she can do Jr. showsmanship......but will the two males (if we get one) get along???? also any websites would be greatly appreciated!
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01-22-2005, 06:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
sheltiepups Semper Fidelis - Marines Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: somewhere Posts: 2,438 Rep Power: 130	Chichi, as long as the males are introduced right I do not see a problem with it. But there might be. Just be careful about it. Also it’s easier if they are both neutered, but if your sister is going to show in Jr. then the JRT cannot be. Anyway good luck with whatever kind of dog you get.
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10-03-2004, 10:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,419 Rep Power: 286	The Parsons has generally been accepted worldwide as the original type.[u][b] Yup....we Americans already have enough of a bad reputation world wide for insisting on everything and everyone conforming to our ways when we are in THEIR countries. So, I guess for once, if worldwide a dog breed is called one thing and we're in the minority, it won't hurt to conform to the majority. Anyhow, a rose by any other name is still a rose. LOL.

10-03-2004, 10:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
*Carrie* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: north panhandle of Idaho Posts: 7,419 Rep Power: 286	Right on.

01-22-2005, 06:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
ChiChi Sheltie Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina YEEHAW! Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 107	Brody will be neutered VERY SOON! but yea they cant be neutered if shown!
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01-22-2005, 06:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
sheltiepups Semper Fidelis - Marines Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: somewhere Posts: 2,438 Rep Power: 130	alright cool. Did you check the AKC site for info on the JRT?
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01-22-2005, 06:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChiChi Sheltie Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina YEEHAW! Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 107	yes i did but i didnt kno that it was the parson now! so i will help my sister with that...
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01-23-2005, 10:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
BellFounder Collie girl Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 399 Rep Power: 82	The jack russell terrier and parsons jack russell terrier are two separate entities in most countries. The US is simply falling in line with other countries. The Parsons Jack russell terrier is the only type recognised as a "breed" by the kennel club in most countries. The parsons is the long-legged wire-coated variety (some smooth coats exist but these are in the minority). The "football dog" short legged jack russell is really just a "mutt" in most places as their are extremely few dogs registered in any way and virtually none that there is any clue what is in them for more than 2-3 generations. This type of dog is merely somebodies idea of a jack russell mostly bred with next-doors dog that also resembles a jack russell. There are moves afoot in the UK to provide a kennel club registery for short-legged jack russells but only the wire-coated and straight-legged variety. The horrid deformed queen anne legs seen on the vast majority of smooth-coated jack russells will exclude a dog from registration.

01-23-2005, 10:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
ChiChi Sheltie Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina YEEHAW! Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 107	SO wat ur saying is that jacks are mutts and Parsons are the only ones recognized? if that is wat u mean okay i get! lol
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06-17-2005, 02:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
JackLover Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England Posts: 293 Rep Power: 69	Bell Founder said it very well, Parsons are the orignail breed JRT's where bred from Parsons but bred to be a smaller dog, for ratting and going down rabbit holes, the JRT is bred for length rather than height, where as the Parsons should be the same height as length, they are both georgeous dogs. I have one of each! The JRT is usually more of a family dog, where as the Parson is more of a working dog, and have an even greater energy than the JRT (if thats possiable) Even though the JRT cannot be regestered they should still comply to the breed standered of the Parson the only difference is the height/length

06-18-2005, 06:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
*Cassiepeia* Chihuahua Mum Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 8,281 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 284	Both JRT & PRT are able to be registered and shown here in Australia. But yep..they're seperate breeds. My grandfather had one, they're fantastic dogs. Cass.
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