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lotr_craz · 07-19-2005, 12:05 PM

ok , i'm not here to fight , i just said my thought , i still think theres a risk , i still don't think it's worth it and i still wont do it.

ok , thats it i'm not gunna respond any more , except if you made me angry , lol

oh well , good luck with the pups though!

WingedFoal · 07-19-2005, 12:20 PM

Nobody was fighting. Just opinions and facts were involved, since you seemed you didn't quite understand the facts about spaying. Sorry you see that as fighting.

richnrissa · 07-19-2005, 12:20 PM

I'm still laughing over the fact that this thread is so old...

Hopefully we hear an update!

lotr_craz · 07-19-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WingedFoal

Nobody was fighting. Just opinions and facts were involved, since you seemed you didn't quite understand the facts about spaying. Sorry you see that as fighting.

i didn't see at as a fight , i jhust said i didn't mean it as a fight , so it wouldn't start as a fight , had it in many forums lol so..

bigdoglover · 07-19-2005, 06:03 PM

the reason a fight breaks out is because both sides of the situation see things differently. We here at GP look at the safety, health, and long-term well being of the animal. However, it seems to me you are looking at it differently. What did your vet tell you about the anesthesia? How old is your dog? I have worked at Vet clinics and shelters all over, and have never seen a complication with it. I have also had one of my dogs in for a C-Section, and she did just fine, as did the pups. So is there something you aren't telling us????

mulroony · 07-20-2005, 06:30 AM

I know anesthia is not an exact science, but done responsibly and carefuly the likelyhood of complications are slim. Any good vet/anesthiasologist (sp??) will test it in small amounts to make sure there are no allergies. Accidents happen, but I bet your dog is more likely to be more seriously injured on the way to the vet then from the surgery. I understand you are in Belgium and things may be a little different, but a good vet is just that.

I hope with a little research you change your mind, and if you do not feel comfortable w/ your vets level of cofidence in themselves maybe consider seeking out another vet.

gaddylovesdogs · 07-21-2005, 04:01 PM

Well that's funny....if spaying a dog is so dangerous, why did my three dogs live through it? Wow it must be a miracle.

bigdoglover · 07-21-2005, 04:12 PM

LOL gaddylovesdogs!!!! Isn't it amazing???

gaddylovesdogs · 07-22-2005, 09:24 AM

Yeah! It is!! There weren't any complications in the surgeries, and none of them are dead. LOL

Pugdawg1 · 07-22-2005, 09:46 AM

There's a risk with anything. I'd rather "risk" it and have mine spayed/neutered, then "risk" them dealing with future health problems because I chose to not get them neutered/spayed. I also don't feel like taking the chance on having one of mine being a part of reproducing. I won't be a part of that.

And a dog sick for two weeks after a spay? Where on earth did you hear that? All dogs I've had spayed/neutered, slept that afternoon after surgery, a good part of the next day and were pretty much completely normal the following day. I've been amazed at the last couple of spays on dogs I've brought in for family members. The incision is so TINY. It's incredible.

bigdoglover · 07-22-2005, 09:49 AM

It's amazing how much surgery has progressed. When I worked at a shelter in FL, it used to be you could feel the spay scar .....not so anymore. You really have to look for it, and sometimes you can be fooled!!

gaddylovesdogs · 07-23-2005, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugdawg1

And a dog sick for two weeks after a spay? Where on earth did you hear that? All dogs I've had spayed/neutered, slept that afternoon after surgery, a good part of the next day and were pretty much completely normal the following day. I've been amazed at the last couple of spays on dogs I've brought in for family members. The incision is so TINY. It's incredible.

Yeah. Tippy had to stay overnight to be observed at the clinic, then we got her back. She was her normal self. After ten days we brought her back to have her stitches removed - she has no scars - and then we waited a few more days to get back to exercising her. Everything was back to normal very soon. She wasn't "sick" at all.

Staffanatic · 07-23-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gaddylovesdogs

Yeah. Tippy had to stay overnight to be observed at the clinic, then we got her back.

This whole thread is about spaying and the recovery from it....
can I interject a question about males? When having them neutered, how does their recovery compare to a female who was spayed?
How long must they stay still to heal, how long does it hurt, etc.

Thanks!

Annika

WingedFoal · 07-23-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staffanatic

This whole thread is about spaying and the recovery from it....
can I interject a question about males? When having them neutered, how does their recovery compare to a female who was spayed?
How long must they stay still to heal, how long does it hurt, etc.

Thanks!

Annika

When my dog was neutered, he was pretty normal as soon as I got him (early the next morning). They were able to make the incision so small he didn't even need stitches, but this was a 15-pound Boston Terrier I'm talking about. I made sure to give him the painkillers they sent with us, and he was just as energetic and wild as usual.... So much that sometimes I almost forgot he even had surgery! That's one view of neutering.

Crossfire Bulldogs · 07-23-2005, 09:21 PM

With the incision being much smaller and not so evasive of a surgery it is a bit easier on the males than the females but they aren't exempt from having problems.

Occasionally they will swell and a number of other things that causes longer to recover. This however is the exeption rather than the rule with the males. Most go home within just a few hours and their usually pretyt pain free within a few days and running around as if nothing happened.

07-19-2005, 12:05 PM	#31 (permalink)
lotr_craz Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	ok , i'm not here to fight , i just said my thought , i still think theres a risk , i still don't think it's worth it and i still wont do it. ok , thats it i'm not gunna respond any more , except if you made me angry , lol oh well , good luck with the pups though!
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07-19-2005, 12:20 PM	#32 (permalink)
WingedFoal Bostons Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 1,035 Rep Power: 98	Nobody was fighting. Just opinions and facts were involved, since you seemed you didn't quite understand the facts about spaying. Sorry you see that as fighting.
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07-20-2005, 06:30 AM	#36 (permalink)
mulroony Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,100 Rep Power: 121	I know anesthia is not an exact science, but done responsibly and carefuly the likelyhood of complications are slim. Any good vet/anesthiasologist (sp??) will test it in small amounts to make sure there are no allergies. Accidents happen, but I bet your dog is more likely to be more seriously injured on the way to the vet then from the surgery. I understand you are in Belgium and things may be a little different, but a good vet is just that. I hope with a little research you change your mind, and if you do not feel comfortable w/ your vets level of cofidence in themselves maybe consider seeking out another vet.
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07-21-2005, 04:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
gaddylovesdogs don't have a cow! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 155	Well that's funny....if spaying a dog is so dangerous, why did my three dogs live through it? Wow it must be a miracle.
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07-19-2005, 06:03 PM	#35 (permalink)
bigdoglover Giant Schnauzers Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West-Central Illinois Posts: 3,624 Rep Power: 179	the reason a fight breaks out is because both sides of the situation see things differently. We here at GP look at the safety, health, and long-term well being of the animal. However, it seems to me you are looking at it differently. What did your vet tell you about the anesthesia? How old is your dog? I have worked at Vet clinics and shelters all over, and have never seen a complication with it. I have also had one of my dogs in for a C-Section, and she did just fine, as did the pups. So is there something you aren't telling us????

07-21-2005, 04:12 PM	#38 (permalink)
bigdoglover Giant Schnauzers Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West-Central Illinois Posts: 3,624 Rep Power: 179	LOL gaddylovesdogs!!!! Isn't it amazing???

07-22-2005, 09:24 AM	#39 (permalink)
gaddylovesdogs don't have a cow! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 155	Yeah! It is!! There weren't any complications in the surgeries, and none of them are dead. LOL
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07-22-2005, 09:46 AM	#40 (permalink)
Pugdawg1 Pug Mom Join Date: May 2004 Location: Elko, Nevada Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 138	There's a risk with anything. I'd rather "risk" it and have mine spayed/neutered, then "risk" them dealing with future health problems because I chose to not get them neutered/spayed. I also don't feel like taking the chance on having one of mine being a part of reproducing. I won't be a part of that. And a dog sick for two weeks after a spay? Where on earth did you hear that? All dogs I've had spayed/neutered, slept that afternoon after surgery, a good part of the next day and were pretty much completely normal the following day. I've been amazed at the last couple of spays on dogs I've brought in for family members. The incision is so TINY. It's incredible.
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07-22-2005, 09:49 AM	#41 (permalink)
bigdoglover Giant Schnauzers Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West-Central Illinois Posts: 3,624 Rep Power: 179	It's amazing how much surgery has progressed. When I worked at a shelter in FL, it used to be you could feel the spay scar .....not so anymore. You really have to look for it, and sometimes you can be fooled!!

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Crossfire Bulldogs Sourmug Mom Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Snuggled Between The Snorts & Snores. Posts: 7,844 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 287	With the incision being much smaller and not so evasive of a surgery it is a bit easier on the males than the females but they aren't exempt from having problems. Occasionally they will swell and a number of other things that causes longer to recover. This however is the exeption rather than the rule with the males. Most go home within just a few hours and their usually pretyt pain free within a few days and running around as if nothing happened.
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