whats the diff?

[ilovepitbulls]

what the diff between american stafordshire and pit bull(might not be spelled right but you know what i mean)

[sheltiepups]

The American Pit Bull Terrier http://www.pets-warehouse.com/breeds...canpitbull.htm

American
Staffordshire Terrier http://www.akc.org/breeds/american_s...rier/index.cfmAmerican Pit Bull Terrier

[PitBullie09]

See this website --> http://www.pbrc.net/faq.html

[elegy]

where it is registered.

of course, you can have a dog that is registered as a ukc american pit bull terrier and an akc american staffordshire terrier all at the same time.

they are the same dog. akc just didn't want a dog with "pit" in its name.

[sheltiepups]

Originally Posted by elegy

they are the same dog. akc just didn't want a dog with "pit" in its name.

can you blame them?

[elegy]

Originally Posted by sheltiepups

can you blame them?

yes. it does not change what the dogs are or what they were bred for. it does not change their history. it does not change their level of dog aggression or their level of love toward people. it's stupid, imnsho.

and a lot of show amstaff breeders will say their dogs are absolutely NOT pit bulls, which is stupid also. they came from the same stock. ie they were ALL pit bulls until the akc invented the amstaff, which were then pit bulls with a new name. nothing else has been bred in. pit bull x pit bull = pit bull, no matter what name you stick on the registration paperwork.

[sheltiepups]

Originally Posted by elegy

yes. it does not change what the dogs are or what they were bred for. it does not change their history. it does not change their level of dog aggression or their level of love toward people. it's stupid, imnsho.

and a lot of show amstaff breeders will say their dogs are absolutely NOT pit bulls, which is stupid also. they came from the same stock. ie they were ALL pit bulls until the akc invented the amstaff, which were then pit bulls with a new name. nothing else has been bred in. pit bull x pit bull = pit bull, no matter what name you stick on the registration paperwork.

you have a point. However, if, to keep my breed of dog, I had to change its name say for sheltie to a different name (I couldn't think of anything) then I would. I know it does not change the history at all, but could it help with peoples image of the breed? Most people have no clue what a pit bull looks like.

[elegy]

but it has nothing to do with keeping your dog. when the amstaff was invented, pit bulls did not have the hideous reputation that they do now. they were accepted as family dogs. heck, petey in the tv show the little rascals was a pit bull.

now it doesn't even matter what you call it, anyway. if it looks like a pit bull (muscular and blockheaded) it's a pit bull, whether it is or not. at least in the eyes of certain legislation.

i don't like pit fighting at all, but at the same time, i have to honor my dogs' breed history. they are the way they are because of what they were, if that makes any sense.

[sheltiepups]

OK, then I agree with you. IF the amstaff was "invented" before pits had such a bad rap then I think it is pointless to change a name. Your right, I don't like that pits are fought, but that’s why the breed was developed.

[elegy]

In 1898 the United Kennel Club was formed with the express intent of providing registration and fighting guidelines for the now officially-named American Pit Bull Terrier. Later, those who wished to distance themselves from the fighting aspect of the breed petitioned the American Kennel Club for recognition of the Pit Bull so that it would be eligible for dog shows and other performance events. The AKC conceded in 1936 but only under the stipulation that the dogs registered with them be called "Staffordshire Terriers", the name of the province in England the breed supposedly originated in. Upon acceptance of the breed, many people dual-registered their dogs with both the AKC and the UKC. Lucenay's Peter (the dog that starred in the Our Gang series) was the first dual-registered Pit Bull/Staffordshire Terrier.

. . . .

The AKC eventually closed it's studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. They allowed registration only to those dogs with parents registered as Staffordshire Terriers. For a short period in the 1970's, the AKC reopened its studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. In 1973 the AKC added the prefix "American" to the breed's name in an effort to distinguish it from the newly recognized Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Today, only those dogs with AmStaff parents are eligible for registration. Both the UKC and the ADBA allow registration of AmStaffs, but in these organizations the dogs carry the original name, "American Pit Bull Terrier."

from here

[theGOOCH]

I have argued with people on this site who say they are not the same breed. Maybe because of different breeding practices they are slighly different, but they are basically the same dog. AKC seems to breed more for form and UKC, for function

[Sarah01]

I have to disagree with a few of you that a Staffy and a Pit Bull are the same. They are very different dogs, they even look different. A Staffy is a more sudued version of the Pit Bull with most of the fighting insticts breed out (every dog still has them but in some breeds it is more pronounced) We own a Staffy and I would never own a Pit Bull (Nothing against people who do ) I just don't like the breed myself.

[doberkim]

no, you say you have a staffy - most people who have a staffy or a staffy bull are referring to a staffordshire bull terrier, not an american staffordshire terrier.

[Sarah01]

Originally Posted by doberkim

no, you say you have a staffy - most people who have a staffy or a staffy bull are referring to a staffordshire bull terrier, not an american staffordshire terrier.

True - sorry should have read the first post properly
Just ignore me, hopefully my brain will start working properly shortly..

[doberkim]

s'ok - i just know cause i LUUUUUUUUURVE staffy bulls.

you are now punished for reading incorrectly and the only way you can repay us is to post lovely pics of your staffybull do it now!!